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Old 09-05-2020, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ronnie993tt
But really, this is the purdiest.......

Me like. Purdy indeed.

Yep, I need to work on the mats now... but the Lloyd mats are a bit fleshy and interfere with the pedals.
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Originally Posted by ronnie993tt
But really, this is the purdiest.......

Originally Posted by Cupcar
Beauty is in the eye of beholder. Being an old geezer, my favorite 911 pedal kit is in a Porsche 935, beautiful to me anyway.


Can't beat old school. Nice. Same concept... but somehow "better-er"
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Got mine yesterday for the 964. Thanks Mark!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911...rdt=true&rt=nc

Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
I have an original Wings Engineering throttle pedal that's adjustable in three planes. It's a great piece of engineering and makes heel and toeing super-easy. It slips right onto the stock pedal, so you don't have to dismantle the old pedal and fiddle with stuff like you have to do with the Rennline pedal. Setting it up just takes a few turns of a Phillips screwdriver one way or the other.

Unfortunately, the Wings is no longer available, but you might be able to find one on eBay if you set up a subscribed search.

Also, there was someone on eBay selling clones of them. I have one of these clones in my parts bin and thought it looked pretty good, but the finish on it isn't as refined as the original.

Here's on that sold about ten days ago: https://www.ebay.com/itm/PORSCHE-911...p2047675.l2557

Oh, and I'm moving this to the 993 forum since you have a 993.

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Let us know how you like it, Chao.
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Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
Let us know how you like it, Chao.
3 days worth of driving and love it. For $100 or so used you can find on ebay is a great deal and excellent value. Heel and toe is a breeze or just blipping the throttle in my 964. The car needed an idle adaptation after 14 months at the shop and would stall 8 times out of 10 into neutral while downshifting.

Install and uninstall is a breeze. I need to find a replacement pedal locking screw as mine is stripped. You really don't need anything else.
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I feel the stock setup was the best for heel toe. I broke the stock accelerator pedal plastic hinge and replaced it with a rennline pedal and then spent ages fiddling with it to position it back in a stock location. The rennline pedal is all purdy and fancy but the stock works fine. I didn't bother installing the clutch and brake pedal covers even though I purchased them. I prefer the original pedal with the plastic covers taken off and 3M grip tape. My footwell is shown below. Not super fancy or pretty like some but the car is a driver and built for function. I did take those dinky red extensions off so it's truly like a stock throttle pedal. Honestly, the aluminum plate floor board makes the most difference to pedal usage and I would recommend this over everything else for driving dynamics. The wings pedal shown above is crazy big. What a monster. Do people really have that much trouble finding the throttle pedal? It's like screwing a 4x8 sheet of plywood to the pedal.


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Are you talking about the dead pedal or the floorboard making the biggest difference? If the floorboard I'm curios as to how that contributes to the feel.
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The aluminum floorboard is slippery and allows your feet to slide for easy placement. Makes heel toe and footwork in general much easier.

The rennline dead pedal does nothing apart from save wear and tear on the carpet. I installed it with the throttle pedal but the factory carpet already has a vinyl square that functions as a dead pedal. Unless you have giant clown feet. In that case you may need the rennline dead pedal. And the wings throttle pedal......

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I find the throttle pedal about 1 inch lower or so during hard brake modulation in the 964. It is less in my turbo I admit. Wings pedal provide an equal plane to slide from brake to throttle and easier to apply just a little bit of gas. I am never in contact with the floor board during heel and toe. How does one do that?

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Feet sliding on the floor board? That does not make sense to me... please explain
because my feet are either on a pedal or on the dead pedal but never the floor...
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Originally Posted by chsu74
3 days worth of driving and love it. For $100 or so used you can find on ebay is a great deal and excellent value. Heel and toe is a breeze or just blipping the throttle in my 964. The car needed an idle adaptation after 14 months at the shop and would stall 8 times out of 10 into neutral while downshifting.

Install and uninstall is a breeze. I need to find a replacement pedal locking screw as mine is stripped. You really don't need anything else.
That's terrific! Thanks for the report.

The Wings pedal works and installed/set up in less than ten minutes. The wider platform has always been ideal for me, especially at the track where my right foot may not land 100% correctly on the brake pedal under duress. When I chased a soft brake pedal for a while, I was able to quickly and easily compensate for the height difference.
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Originally Posted by stevensivak
Feet sliding on the floor board? That does not make sense to me... please explain
because my feet are either on a pedal or on the dead pedal but never the floor...
I'm not a professional racecar driver hence I'm fairly lazy. I also am pretty much never driving 10/10ths so when driving I don't hover my heels off the floorboard 100% of the time like Senna. I also heel toe for most downshifts when driving even at a moderate pace on the streets. With my right heel on the floorboard I'll initiate brake pedal application then kick my right foot heel over to blip the throttle. Since my heel is on the floorboard during the start of this, it's an easy movement with a smooth floorboard vs. carpet. If I'm driving closer to the limit or trying to emulate Fangio then yes, the heel is off the floorboard all the time however that is far less common.
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How do you even move, let alone blip, the throttle when applying pressure so far down close to the hinge where there's almost no leverage?



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