Labor Expense Question
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Labor Expense Question
I received a quote of $3,000 +/- for the labor only on the install of the following:
1. all 4 rotors;
2. brake pads;
3. pad sensors;
4. front and rear brake lines;
5. Front and rear springs;
6. Front and rear shocks/struts;
7. Front Spring tops;
8 Front bellows and bump stops
9. Front control arms;
10. Front sway bar links; and
11. Rear Engine Mounts.
It included an alignment and corner balance.
I am not capable of any sophisticated wrenching on my own (hood struts, and idle control valve taxed me), but wanted to save a little on parts. Reputable shop in the northeast. Fair deal or keep looking?
Thanks in advance
1. all 4 rotors;
2. brake pads;
3. pad sensors;
4. front and rear brake lines;
5. Front and rear springs;
6. Front and rear shocks/struts;
7. Front Spring tops;
8 Front bellows and bump stops
9. Front control arms;
10. Front sway bar links; and
11. Rear Engine Mounts.
It included an alignment and corner balance.
I am not capable of any sophisticated wrenching on my own (hood struts, and idle control valve taxed me), but wanted to save a little on parts. Reputable shop in the northeast. Fair deal or keep looking?
Thanks in advance
#2
Do you know their hourly rate charge?
3000/150 = 20 hours of labor
3000/150 = 20 hours of labor
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I did not ask that yet.
I suppose a better question for me to have asked the forum was how many hours should I reasonably expect be charged for this work.
I suppose a better question for me to have asked the forum was how many hours should I reasonably expect be charged for this work.
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So based on experience, the following seem like reasonable times, when considering that they are all in the same area. Tasks inherent in each job that are repeated are not considered.
Front Corner:
Rotor, pads, sensors, 30 min
Control arms, 15 min
Swaybar endlinks, 15 min
Spring job includes top mounts and bellow/bumpstops, 1 hour
Brake lines...variable. If not super rusty, 15 min...if super rusty, sky is limit
Misc Time, 15 min
So call it 2:45 min per corner. 5.5 hours for front
Rear:
brakes 30 min
Brake lines, as above...call it 30 min
Rear spring/shock...1:45 being generous
so 5:30 hours rear.
Engine mounts:
1 hour
Bleed brakes
1 hour
Alignment and corner balance....roughly $500
Rounding up a bit, you get 13 hours of labor. Typical labor rate is roughly $125 at indy shop.
That would put you at $2,150.
I think your quote is very high because all these times are very generous
Front Corner:
Rotor, pads, sensors, 30 min
Control arms, 15 min
Swaybar endlinks, 15 min
Spring job includes top mounts and bellow/bumpstops, 1 hour
Brake lines...variable. If not super rusty, 15 min...if super rusty, sky is limit
Misc Time, 15 min
So call it 2:45 min per corner. 5.5 hours for front
Rear:
brakes 30 min
Brake lines, as above...call it 30 min
Rear spring/shock...1:45 being generous
so 5:30 hours rear.
Engine mounts:
1 hour
Bleed brakes
1 hour
Alignment and corner balance....roughly $500
Rounding up a bit, you get 13 hours of labor. Typical labor rate is roughly $125 at indy shop.
That would put you at $2,150.
I think your quote is very high because all these times are very generous
Last edited by Quadcammer; 01-14-2021 at 02:44 PM.
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Quadcammer, thanks for that info. I'm better armed to negotiate a better deal!
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Struts have an $1800 price spread depending on what is put on and what is put on has a profound influence on handling and flexibility in tuning. Ask about what specific brands and models he plans to install.
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Last edited by pp000830; 01-14-2021 at 03:17 PM.
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Thanks Andy. I am committed to Koni Active and M033 springs. Should have specified that.
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That number is a little high but I wouldn't call it crazy. That's a 10-15 hour job depending on a few factors. If this shop charges $100/hr and they're quoting 30 hours, then yes, that's crazy.
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That number is a little high but I wouldn't call it crazy. That's a 10-15 hour job depending on a few factors. If this shop charges $100/hr and they're quoting 30 hours, then yes, that's crazy.
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The input is very appreciated.
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Negotiating a lower price with a shop for necessary work based on internet feedback is not a tactic I would recommend. Building a relationship with the shop you choose based on research, respectful (but educated) conversations/questions with the shop concerning the work, along with a mutual understanding of your expectations and goals for your 993 are key in my experience.
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Seems a bit high.........
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Negotiating a lower price with a shop for necessary work based on internet feedback is not a tactic I would recommend. Building a relationship with the shop you choose based on research, respectful (but educated) conversations/questions with the shop concerning the work, along with a mutual understanding of your expectations and goals for your 993 are key in my experience.
Edwin