Looking at a '95 993
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Looking at a '95 993
Greetings all,
I am from the 951 group looking at a 993. My 951 died a horrible death. (See "Rear-ended at 35-40mph" on the other board.) I saw a '95 993 in the Rennlist classifieds and I am interested in learning about these models.
Without referring me to the search function, what are the MAIN big things to look for? (Remember I speak water cooled right now, learning the power of air.)
I am from the 951 group looking at a 993. My 951 died a horrible death. (See "Rear-ended at 35-40mph" on the other board.) I saw a '95 993 in the Rennlist classifieds and I am interested in learning about these models.
Without referring me to the search function, what are the MAIN big things to look for? (Remember I speak water cooled right now, learning the power of air.)
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James,
I also speak water cooled. Just a few and of course the first is GET A PPI!!!! After that, check that the wiring harness recall has been completed. If not it is a no cost (PCNA picks up the bill) process at a dealer. Check the suspension-ROW height is desirable but make sure it was done correctly. Check the trunk-where your 951 engine was, take out the carpet and check the frame for repainting often done after front end mishaps.
Our cars are quite robust so there is not much that can go wrong. The 95 did not have the OBD II problems of later cars and is easier to chip. Have fun with your search. Oh yes, if you're tall you will notice a significant decrease in leg room. Also Peter Morgan has a new and good small book about buying a 993. Covers almost everything.
Al
PS My 944 was Kalahari Beige too!!!
I also speak water cooled. Just a few and of course the first is GET A PPI!!!! After that, check that the wiring harness recall has been completed. If not it is a no cost (PCNA picks up the bill) process at a dealer. Check the suspension-ROW height is desirable but make sure it was done correctly. Check the trunk-where your 951 engine was, take out the carpet and check the frame for repainting often done after front end mishaps.
Our cars are quite robust so there is not much that can go wrong. The 95 did not have the OBD II problems of later cars and is easier to chip. Have fun with your search. Oh yes, if you're tall you will notice a significant decrease in leg room. Also Peter Morgan has a new and good small book about buying a 993. Covers almost everything.
Al
PS My 944 was Kalahari Beige too!!!
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Since you're too lazy to do a search, you'll get a limited reply. As 993Maineiac (whoever he is) sez, most important is get a PPI. Beyond that:
- check the maintenance/repair records; if owner doesn't have any, be danged cautious (common for all Porsches)
- pump the clutch with the engine off; if it squeals, the master cylinder might be going
- Check for fluid leaks (oil, power steering)
993's are generally robust cars (have 80K miles on mine; still on orig. clutch, no engine/tranny problems).
Good luck.
- check the maintenance/repair records; if owner doesn't have any, be danged cautious (common for all Porsches)
- pump the clutch with the engine off; if it squeals, the master cylinder might be going
- Check for fluid leaks (oil, power steering)
993's are generally robust cars (have 80K miles on mine; still on orig. clutch, no engine/tranny problems).
Good luck.
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Al -
"993Maineiac (whoever he is)"
With almost 600 posts you'd think you were a somebody.
Maybe you need at least 1700 like Ray to be known on the 993 board.
"993Maineiac (whoever he is)"
With almost 600 posts you'd think you were a somebody.
Maybe you need at least 1700 like Ray to be known on the 993 board.
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James,
Welcome to 993 land.
First of all, ignore Ray Calvo. He is rude to everyone on the board. I'm surprised someone that miserable hasn't jumped off a bridge already. And when he does respond to a topic, the responses offer no help - he just repeats himself over and over again.
As far as your question, there is not one major problem with the 993 that chronically comes up over and over again. The cars are well built and reliable, but do require more than normal maintenance. I'm sure you had the same experience with your 951. So much depends on the age and mileage of the car you find and how good the maintenance was.
Read these two threads and Robin's P-Car site - they should give you most of the items to check off on your punchlist when looking at 993's.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...threadid=11444
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...threadid=10906
http://p-car.com/
Good luck and feel free to let us help you with a specific car, when you find a good candidate to buy.
Welcome to 993 land.
First of all, ignore Ray Calvo. He is rude to everyone on the board. I'm surprised someone that miserable hasn't jumped off a bridge already. And when he does respond to a topic, the responses offer no help - he just repeats himself over and over again.
As far as your question, there is not one major problem with the 993 that chronically comes up over and over again. The cars are well built and reliable, but do require more than normal maintenance. I'm sure you had the same experience with your 951. So much depends on the age and mileage of the car you find and how good the maintenance was.
Read these two threads and Robin's P-Car site - they should give you most of the items to check off on your punchlist when looking at 993's.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...threadid=11444
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...threadid=10906
http://p-car.com/
Good luck and feel free to let us help you with a specific car, when you find a good candidate to buy.
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You know I have noticed that to "Ray is rude to everyone" What's the point if you don't want to respond to help someone then don't say anything at all. Most people will get a clear response with out "try the search feature idiot" comments. I think that's a little counter productive.
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Originally posted by James86-951
....what are the MAIN big things to look for?....
....what are the MAIN big things to look for?....
I would also add....if you are looking at a 96 or newer car, be wary of clogged secondary air injectors and the CEL - not an issue if you are looking at a 95. Keep an eye open for worn clutches (which could actually be a blessing in disguise), leaking valve cover gaskets, and notchy first gears as the tranny does not take kindly to drag strip abuses. Also see if the shocks have been replaced as they are junk after approx 30k miles...if they're still the original ones you should budget an extra $1K to replace them (could also be a blessing in disguise). Good luck and happy hunting
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Thanks for your suggestions. Thank you Monique for the guide. I will hopefully settle up with the ins company soon. I saw a 993 in the rennlist classifieds that looked interesting. (60k mi, not a garage queen, which is important because I like to drive.) There is another comparable '95 model here in ATL for sale in a local lot. I will be sniffing it out this weekend.
There are trolls on all of the boards, just different model #'s.
There are trolls on all of the boards, just different model #'s.
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James-
Have fun with the search. There are alot of 993s available and sometimes it takes a while to find the right one, but it is definitely worth the effort. One piece of advice for the test drive-initially brake earlier on the straight then in the 951, and don't lift off the noise pedal in a turn. You don't have the 50/50 distribution of the vasser koolers and the change in cg when you lift at speed in a turn can be interesting. I am told that it is much better then the older 911s, but she can start to swing her tail!
Again, good luck and post pics when you decide on the right 993.
Al
Have fun with the search. There are alot of 993s available and sometimes it takes a while to find the right one, but it is definitely worth the effort. One piece of advice for the test drive-initially brake earlier on the straight then in the 951, and don't lift off the noise pedal in a turn. You don't have the 50/50 distribution of the vasser koolers and the change in cg when you lift at speed in a turn can be interesting. I am told that it is much better then the older 911s, but she can start to swing her tail!
Again, good luck and post pics when you decide on the right 993.
Al