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Old 09-22-2022, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rrc715
I have been using FDM golden rod and short shift kit for about 7 years. I have never experienced any “popping out of gear” or transmission issues. Having said that I do not track my car so I do not do any hard shifting, clutching and braking that is done when racing.

There are many cars using the FDM SSK and GR with full confidence so I hope the mechanic that suggested the equipment is possibly the cause of the transmission failure continues with his rebuild to provide an more detailed and justified opinion.

Racing in it of itself places any car in extreme conditions specifically shifting, clutching and braking.

So without trying to start any argument I’m just a little disappointed that a blanket statement about a particular product being responsible and that we “should stay away from it” because one mechanic says so makes me have to post on this thread.

Obviously, I’m a fan of FDM and I’m sure I speak for others.

Respectfully RRC.
My apologies if I wasn't clear. I DO NOT believe this had anything to do with my tranny failure, neither did the mechanic. I basically had engine break in period and 3 laps on track, so no way did this cause the failure. In saying that, definitely no blanket statement from me. I also like FDM and am enjoying the shifter thus far. I was just sort taken aback when I heard this and thought I would see if anyone else had this experience, since I had not read this ANYWHERE before! Also, this comment from the mechanic was not in reference to just the golden rod, but the RS or any solid linkage (no rubber) shifter in general. Even after that discussion I think I would definitely recommend this mod, but knowing issues have been noted it's kind of food for thought with regard to how one shifts. I for one don't really pull too hard since you don't really have to unless I miss a shift. But I've been thinking 2 and 3 synchros have been on their last leg for a bit now, I suspect those or the sleeve will be the issue.

Certainly enjoying hearing others thoughts and input as usual!
Old 09-22-2022, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The993Purist
As a purist, I would not use as it would take away from the stock shifting performance.

hope this helps

993 Stock shifting linkage is total garbage! Apparently you don’t drive your car you have no clue on what you are missing out on. Stock 25yo rubber bits “spongy shifting” vs SOLID precise shifts.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gbos1
993 Stock shifting linkage is total garbage! Apparently you don’t drive your car you have no clue on what you are missing out on. Stock 25yo rubber bits “spongy shifting” vs SOLID precise shifts.
Ouch you hurt my feelings. Obviously you do not have what it takes to understand the purist mindset. OEM as the Porsche GODS meant it to be. Do not pass go, Do not collect $100.




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The Golden Rod/SSK combination from FDM are on both our 993's. The precise, tactile feel over stock is like night and day.
Old 09-22-2022, 12:41 PM
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10 years with FD golden rod and FD SSK - trans still going strong shifting beautifully without issue. Plenty of stop and go traffic and normal driving over the last 20k miles.
Old 09-22-2022, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Brig993
10 years with FD golden rod and FD SSK - trans still going strong shifting beautifully without issue. Plenty of stop and go traffic and normal driving over the last 20k miles.
Same except without SSK, no complaints.
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3 yrs with golden rod and never one issue. Love the feel!
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Old 09-22-2022, 01:20 PM
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Going on 7 years with a CAE ultrashifter (another solid shifter linkage setup), and haven't experienced any negative shifting issues (including popping out of any gears).
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Awhile back I was on another car forum and someone stated : a short shift kit will make the tranny fail. Needless to say 230,000 miles later with the short shift kit on my old '85 GTI, nothing happened. But I would guess that it encouraged people to slam through the gears more, which in turn caused problems. But the blame went on the short shift kit. People are less likely to admit their ham fisted shifting caused the problem.
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Originally Posted by The993Purist
As a purist, I would not use as it would take away from the stock shifting performance.

hope this helps
You sound like a troll with all your "purist" speak. That's all you talk about in your post history.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:18 PM
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I don't think Singer would be using the GR if there was the slightest chance there might be a problem. I know it's the 964, but the 993 could be called an Irish twin!
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The 964 shift rod does not have the big rubber joint. That only happened in the 993, to soften it up. The factory RS shift rod does not have any rubber in it, either. 964 and 993 Cup Cars did not run shift rods with rubber joints in them.
I have been using, building, selling my shift set ups for many years. I have sold thousands of them all over the world without issue.
Popping out of gear generally occurs when the linkage is not adjusted properly, or too much gear box/engine movement occurs due to other warn bits.
One of the prominent engine/transmission builders, Rothsport Racing, as well as the two "high dollar" custom air-cooled builders use our Golden Rods.

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Originally Posted by FD Motorsports
The 964 shift rod does not have the big rubber joint. That only happened in the 993, to soften it up. The factory RS shift rod does not have any rubber in it, either. 964 and 993 Cup Cars did not run shift rods with rubber joints in them.
I have been using, building, selling my shift set ups for many years. I have sold thousands of them all over the world without issue.
Popping out of gear generally occurs when the linkage is not adjusted properly, or too much gear box/engine movement occurs due to other warn bits.
One of the prominent engine/transmission builders, Rothsport Racing, as well as the two "high dollar" custom air-cooled builders use our Golden Rods.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:20 PM
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Thank you Darrin! That’s what I was trying to say in my earlier post but I don’t have the vocabulary or knowledge of the mechanics.

Love your products, Keep on truckin man. See you at Luft8. RRC
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