What is the "fastest" road-going NA air cooled Porsche?

mrsullivan · 04-22-2005, 10:13 PM

Curious as to the fastest factory-produced street legal NA air cooled Porsche ever produced? If someone has an idea of the top 10 list in order, would be even better...

I recognize that the term "fastest" is a bit subjective, but I didnt want to say horsepower, because perhaps there are some Porsches with less HP, but light enough that they were faster. Lets say in a straight line 0-60, or even better 1/4 mile times & trap speeds. I realize that suspension setups and drivers can make a difference on a track, etc. However for this question, just talking about the fastest in a straight line.

Source of question: co-worker asked me this today and I wasnt sure of the answer (thought maybe 993 RS 3.8, but wasnt sure)...

thanks!

adsc4s · 04-22-2005, 10:16 PM

996 GT3.

mooty · 04-22-2005, 10:26 PM

adsc4s, jonathon was looking for cars without water ;-)

i think 3.8RS is probably the fastest. i could be wrong though.

mrsullivan · 04-22-2005, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsc4s

996 GT3.

air cooled only

chris walrod · 04-22-2005, 10:55 PM

I would have to say the black 1996 993 cab that I am working on for Scott (local Rennlister). Not sure why, but this thing pulls like no tomorrow.. Its stock other than a LWF. I have driven A LOT of 993's, and this one has me scratching my head

mrsullivan · 04-22-2005, 11:08 PM

come on... any Porsche historians out there?

jcnesq · 04-22-2005, 11:34 PM

Wait for Adrian to wake up - if anyone knows, he should.

graham_mitchell · 04-23-2005, 01:07 AM

edit: woops, I missed the NA requirement

texas911 · 04-23-2005, 01:25 AM

Aren't all 993's oil cooled?

graham_mitchell · 04-23-2005, 01:35 AM

I'm guessing the 917 K then

600hp in only 800 kg!

naturally aspirated
air-cooled
top speed: 220mph

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...php&carnum=418

CP · 04-23-2005, 02:07 AM

Graham,

This monster is street legal?

CP

993RS · 04-23-2005, 02:34 AM

If we are talking about street-legal, non-tuner, air-cooled Porsches, it must be the 993 Carrera RS.

Scott 1996 993c2 · 04-23-2005, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris walrod

I would have to say the black 1996 993 cab that I am working on for Scott (local Rennlister). Not sure why, but this thing pulls like no tomorrow.. Its stock other than a LWF. I have driven A LOT of 993's, and this one has me scratching my head

Chris' input regarding my car (given his knowledge and experience with these vehicles) had me feeling rather good, and proud, today!

I cannot wait to get her back tomorrow!

Feeling like the proud parent of a new baby (already pretty proud of our 3 boys

)

Scott

Adrian · 04-23-2005, 03:41 AM

My money would actually be on the 911 (964) Carrera RS 3.8 litre (21 road legal versions built).
There was also one factory prepared road legal version of the 964 Carrera RSR 3.8 litre.
However this will always remain subjective because there is no real comparison data.
Head to head with equal drivers I would put my money on the 964 Carrera RS 3.8 litre up against a 993 RS simply because the 964 is significantly lighter.
Ciao,
Adrian.

paradisenb · 04-23-2005, 07:32 AM

Well, there you have it. I would not have guessed a 964. My money was on the 993 RS also.

04-22-2005, 10:13 PM	#1
mrsullivan Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,325	What is the "fastest" road-going NA air cooled Porsche? Curious as to the fastest factory-produced street legal NA air cooled Porsche ever produced? If someone has an idea of the top 10 list in order, would be even better... I recognize that the term "fastest" is a bit subjective, but I didnt want to say horsepower, because perhaps there are some Porsches with less HP, but light enough that they were faster. Lets say in a straight line 0-60, or even better 1/4 mile times & trap speeds. I realize that suspension setups and drivers can make a difference on a track, etc. However for this question, just talking about the fastest in a straight line. Source of question: co-worker asked me this today and I wasnt sure of the answer (thought maybe 993 RS 3.8, but wasnt sure)... thanks! __________________ Jonathan Current: 1996 C2 Blue Turquoise/Black, PSS10, OEM RS Speedlines Kid Haulers: 2011 Acura MDX Technology 2005 Honda Odyssey Touring Sold: 2003 RS6 1997 Carrera S 2008 RS4 1998 Carrera S 2004 E46 M3 Others........

04-22-2005, 10:16 PM	#2
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04-22-2005, 10:26 PM	#3
mooty GT3 player par excellence Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: san francisco Posts: 19,487	adsc4s, jonathon was looking for cars without water ;-) i think 3.8RS is probably the fastest. i could be wrong though. __________________ 996gt3 uprights+wheel bearing (1000 miles)+hubs (1000 miles) make offer. SCHNEIDER NELSON PORSCHE: top grade CARLSEN PORSCHE: unscrupulous PCA National Instructor HWFMR Team Director of "Unsanctioned" Track Events Rennlist Member #021125-3378 http://gt2gt3cup.org/

04-22-2005, 10:55 PM	#5
chris walrod Guru Lifetime Rennlist Member Rennlist Small Business Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: yorba linda, ca Posts: 15,254	I would have to say the black 1996 993 cab that I am working on for Scott (local Rennlister). Not sure why, but this thing pulls like no tomorrow.. Its stock other than a LWF. I have driven A LOT of 993's, and this one has me scratching my head __________________ Is this a great place or what? Chris 97 993 twin "Knowledge is what you get when you read the directions, experience is what you get when you don't." - Unknown Latest Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVlDz8utL94 http://www.swiftengineering.com/ Cool Video Interesting -- yes, it was snowing

04-22-2005, 11:08 PM	#6
mrsullivan Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,325	come on... any Porsche historians out there? __________________ Jonathan Current: 1996 C2 Blue Turquoise/Black, PSS10, OEM RS Speedlines Kid Haulers: 2011 Acura MDX Technology 2005 Honda Odyssey Touring Sold: 2003 RS6 1997 Carrera S 2008 RS4 1998 Carrera S 2004 E46 M3 Others........

04-22-2005, 11:34 PM	#7
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04-23-2005, 01:07 AM	#8
graham_mitchell Playboy Photographer Rennlist Lifetime Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kiev Posts: 18,324	edit: woops, I missed the NA requirement __________________ Ex car: 993 C4 (silver, '95, manual) - Recaro SPG seats, Mille Miglia mufflers, HID upgrade, Veloce GT1 lightweight 18" wheels, 94kg/207 lbs removed so far... Ex ex car: 3.2 Carrera (midnight blue, '85) Last edited by graham_mitchell; 04-23-2005 at 01:26 AM.

04-23-2005, 01:25 AM	#9
texas911 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,944	Aren't all 993's oil cooled? __________________ 001110010011000100110001 1995 911C2 - Silver/Grey 2007 911TT - Silver/Grey

04-23-2005, 01:35 AM	#10
graham_mitchell Playboy Photographer Rennlist Lifetime Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kiev Posts: 18,324	I'm guessing the 917 K then 600hp in only 800 kg! naturally aspirated air-cooled top speed: 220mph http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...php&carnum=418 __________________ Ex car: 993 C4 (silver, '95, manual) - Recaro SPG seats, Mille Miglia mufflers, HID upgrade, Veloce GT1 lightweight 18" wheels, 94kg/207 lbs removed so far... Ex ex car: 3.2 Carrera (midnight blue, '85)

04-23-2005, 02:07 AM	#11
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04-23-2005, 02:34 AM	#12
993RS Super User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,020	If we are talking about street-legal, non-tuner, air-cooled Porsches, it must be the 993 Carrera RS.

04-23-2005, 03:41 AM	#14
Adrian Addict Lead Rennlist Technical Advisor Rennlist Lifetime Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Heidiland Posts: 8,029	My money would actually be on the 911 (964) Carrera RS 3.8 litre (21 road legal versions built). There was also one factory prepared road legal version of the 964 Carrera RSR 3.8 litre. However this will always remain subjective because there is no real comparison data. Head to head with equal drivers I would put my money on the 964 Carrera RS 3.8 litre up against a 993 RS simply because the 964 is significantly lighter. Ciao, Adrian. __________________ www.grimmensteinbooks.com www.adrianstreather.com

04-23-2005, 07:32 AM	#15
paradisenb Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In the pasture. Posts: 3,492	Well, there you have it. I would not have guessed a 964. My money was on the 993 RS also. __________________ Randy Paradise Newport Beach HWFMR "Team Caffinater" 1979 911 SC Euro D Class #84 1998 C2S Coupe, The Red Baron The B.A.T 2000 Boxster S, Dirt nap. 1987 911 3.2 Cab Gone but not forgotten. 1973 914 2L Long Gone 1981 911 SC Long Gone - Anyone remember Chick Iverson? Porsche

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