Battery Drain?
#17
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I think that after confirming the alternator output and health of the battery (Occasionally a new one will be bad) I would focus on the starter circuit. It sounds to me like you've had prior trouble with that circuit and an attempt was made to remedy it by replacing the starter. From your description, the starter isn't spinning the engine after you run it and shut down. It could be that whatever caused your first problem wasn't completely repaired by the replacement of the starter and it is drawing the battery down via some type of short circuit.
I'd start with a fully charged battery, start the car and check the alternator output per instructions stated above. If alternator output is good, drive it about for at least 20 minutes (Per your previous description) then park it in your garage and see if it will start again (That way it's home if it doesn't start). If the battery is good before start-up and the alternator is putting out the proper voltage when the car is running and then after shutting down the battery is drained, then there is a good chance that some circuit is staying closed after start-up and drawing the battery down. The most likely candidate would be the starter circuit, particularly if your don't have any other accessories turned on.
Whatever you do, do it one step at a time and change only one condition at a time. Otherwise, you'll never track down the problem.
Good luck.
I'd start with a fully charged battery, start the car and check the alternator output per instructions stated above. If alternator output is good, drive it about for at least 20 minutes (Per your previous description) then park it in your garage and see if it will start again (That way it's home if it doesn't start). If the battery is good before start-up and the alternator is putting out the proper voltage when the car is running and then after shutting down the battery is drained, then there is a good chance that some circuit is staying closed after start-up and drawing the battery down. The most likely candidate would be the starter circuit, particularly if your don't have any other accessories turned on.
Whatever you do, do it one step at a time and change only one condition at a time. Otherwise, you'll never track down the problem.
Good luck.
#18
Originally Posted by Allen
Why is this...what is drawing current with the key in the ignition, that doesn't draw when the key is not? I leave my key in the ignition all the time...but I also have it hooked to a Deltran battery tender (like the one shown above), so I have no problems. Should I not be leaving my key in the ignition all the time??
Not exactly sure what's drawing when the key is left in the ignition, but I suspect that a computer and/or other electronics are energized. Without the key in the ignition, mine draws about 15 mA (vs 90 with the key in).
The battery tender I use is the Porsche one that plugs into the cig lighter, puts out about 1/2 amp and will not overcharge. Extra long cord is about 20-22 gauge so it can feed over the door sill and the door can be closed on it. I put a mini-switch on it about 1 ft away from the cig plug so I can hop in, turn it off, unplug it and toss it (gently) onto the floor. (Eliminates the need to plug/unplug at the wall or, in the case of other pattery tenders, having to raise the hood and carpet to unplug from battery- just hop in and go.)
-Jim
#19
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Originally Posted by eunsulover
All the lamps on the dash board is on and I hear the click sound when I turn the ignition on. Does this mean the car turns over? I took the battery to the place where I purchased. They said that the battery was drained.
This is strange because the alternator and the starter were replaced not too long ago.
This is strange because the alternator and the starter were replaced not too long ago.
I should mention that it is possible, although very unlikely, that you have a bad battery. Yes, some brand new batteries are bad right from the start if they have been sitting on the shelf for too long. Just keep that in the back of your head if you have to keep running around with this issue.
#20
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Originally Posted by eunsulover
This is strange because the alternator and the starter were replaced not too long ago.
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Hi,
I thought when you leave the key in the ignition, turned to position 1 - the fuel pump carries on circulating fuel around the fuel lines system?
or is that only on earlier model 911s?
T
I thought when you leave the key in the ignition, turned to position 1 - the fuel pump carries on circulating fuel around the fuel lines system?
or is that only on earlier model 911s?
T
#22
Race Director
Originally Posted by eunsulover
All the lamps on the dash board is on and I hear the click sound when I turn the ignition on. Does this mean the car turns over? I took the battery to the place where I purchased. They said that the battery was drained.
This is strange because the alternator and the starter were replaced not too long ago.
This is strange because the alternator and the starter were replaced not too long ago.
Others have provided excellent suggestions, I would recommend you have the shop that performed the starter/alt. repair check their work first. Could be something as simple as a loose connection.