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Old 06-29-2009, 04:40 PM
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Default Any 993 owners have a laser jammer?

I keep getting pulled over, and radar detectors aren't cutting it anymore. Ohio uses Lidar almost exclusively, and it's a rare feat that you can detect it before they are beaming you. I've had one speeding ticket a year the last 3 years, and all have been from laser.

I am considering a Laser Jammer, but wondering if anyone has tried one in their 993. Every car is different in terms of how well they work, I"m told. It has to do with frontal area, color, reflectivity, etc.

Unfortunately for me, I'll have to buy 3 of the dang things, one for my DD, one for the 993TT, and one for the wifey's car which is the family truckster.
Old 06-29-2009, 05:36 PM
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I too am considering it. Here is a great link comparing different devices

http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...mmer-test.html
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I was under the impression that these are illegal in California--am I wrong?
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I think so, but most shut themselves off right after jamming, so the cops don't detect. Doesn't make it legal, but...
Old 06-29-2009, 06:05 PM
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Dont waste your money. THEY DONT WORK. Repeat--THEY DONT WORK
Old 06-29-2009, 06:48 PM
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http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=1048

"And having tested the Escort Passport SRX laser shifters extensively, installed on both cars, trucks and SUVs, I can attest to their effectiveness in most situations. Pitted against all five of the most popular models of police laser gun, the Escort Passport SRX executed its laser-shifting duties efficiently enough that few had any clue that our target vehicles were in the neighborhood. In nearly every test, the laser's target-speed display remained blank from the 1,250-foot limit of our test site down to our 450-foot threshold--sometimes to point-blank range--a fairly good feat of electronic wizardry. (The upmarket Escort Passport 9500ci uses the newer ZR4 laser shifters which my tests show are more effective.)"
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Originally Posted by civerson4
I was under the impression that these are illegal in California--am I wrong?
CA code:

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.

(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.

Added Sec. 1, Ch. 493, Stats. 1998. Effective January 1, 1999.
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Originally Posted by 95 C4 993
Dont waste your money. THEY DONT WORK. Repeat--THEY DONT WORK
No offense, but you are completely wrong.

They do work without any question. I have a Blinder system installed on my 993. Police officers sit at the bottom of a long hill just off the interstate three blocks from my house and shoot LIDAR all the time. An officer cannot be moving with Lidar so they stand with handheld guns behind a bush.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Motorists are coming off a 65 mph freeway onto a long down hill 4 lane road that is posted 35 mph. You have to ride your brakes to stay under 40 mph.

You have no chance at all with a Valentine.

Feel free to come visit and you can ride down the hill with me and witness for yourself the Blinder audible go off at least 3-4 times as they hit me coming down the hill.

A Blinder system has two heads mounted in the front of my car. I have circle one in the picture below. The heads are "always on" meaning as soon as the light detection and ranging (LIDAR) gun hits my car the system "jams" the signal that is returned to the officer and he gets a error message on his gun.

I went so far as to recently pull in beside one of the officers and asked him if I jammed him to his gun. He just shrugged and didn't answer me. Yes the are illegal in (9) states and one of them is CA. I live in KS and they are not illegal.

I studied these extensively before purchasing. I wouldn't spend $400+ on something that might work or might not. The earlier post referencing Guys of Lidar is a wonderful site with great information. I spent many hours on that website before I purchased my system.

Besides "playing" with the officers on the hill by my house it has saved me once in a different part of town when I was completely unsuspecting. That time the Blinder saved my A$$ and paid for itself in that single instance.
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Ok, their may be an exception but a majority of them do not work.
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Originally Posted by Terry Adams
http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=1048

"And having tested the Escort Passport SRX laser shifters extensively, installed on both cars, trucks and SUVs, I can attest to their effectiveness in most situations. Pitted against all five of the most popular models of police laser gun, the Escort Passport SRX executed its laser-shifting duties efficiently enough that few had any clue that our target vehicles were in the neighborhood. In nearly every test, the laser's target-speed display remained blank from the 1,250-foot limit of our test site down to our 450-foot threshold--sometimes to point-blank range--a fairly good feat of electronic wizardry. (The upmarket Escort Passport 9500ci uses the newer ZR4 laser shifters which my tests show are more effective.)"
Guys, www.radartest.com is a marketing website for Escort -- it is not an objective third-party "radar test" site. It's cleverly disguised, but make no mistake about what it actually is.
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You should consider adding a bearcat with a bear-tracker irrespective of whether you decide to get a Blinder system. Used portable ones are about $125-150 and new fixed mount ones are about $150-200 depending on model. Fairly inexpensive and no questions about illegality or effectiveness.
Old 06-30-2009, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Noah
Guys, www.radartest.com is a marketing website for Escort -- it is not an objective third-party "radar test" site. It's cleverly disguised, but make no mistake about what it actually is.
I was aware of that, so it was just a data point in my pre-purchase research. Like Mark, I have some post purchase experience. Not saying what I have on which vehicle(s), but they do work.
Old 06-30-2009, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Terry Adams
I was aware of that, so it was just a data point in my pre-purchase research.
There is no reason to believe that anything on that site is true, so how could information obtained from it be a "data point"?
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Mark,

Thanks you for the great write-up and taking the time to give some actual experience.
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Originally Posted by Noah
There is no reason to believe that anything on that site is true, so how could information obtained from it be a "data point"?
I went out on a limb and bought one. Like Mark, I have personal experience that it works for me.

YMMV, and I could care less who buys one, or who else says it works or doesn't work. I am not trying to prove anything. Sorry if my statement was misleading.

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