horn

tranq993 · 09-22-2009, 12:41 PM

my 95's horn has started honking when I hit a bump or turn hard at speed. Any thoughts?

Robin 993DX · 09-22-2009, 12:47 PM

Common problems, it is the little o-ring bushings that's worn out inside the horn. Both 993 and 996 owners have had the same issue. Do a search you should find many discussion on this and solution for it. I got lazy and just stuck a folded paper between the horn and the steering wheel. Solved the horn problem and the horn still works if I press it.

bbs993tt · 09-22-2009, 01:20 PM

I have the same issue going on in the Turbo right now. The guys at Ruf tell me the grommets are worn down and it's about a 10 minute fix. Trick is you have to have the right tool to remove the airbag.

Arena993 · 09-22-2009, 01:22 PM

Soooooooo common. Like Robin said take the airbag off the steering wheel (disconnect battery 1st) and you will see the retaining ring for the airbag. The 4 (I think) black rubber gaskets are worn down. Someone here replaced the gasket with pieces of a rubber hose. The stealer will try to sell you a ton of stuff at $$$$$$$ but this is a simple DIY

Mike

tranq993 · 09-22-2009, 01:34 PM

Thanks guys- first time to use rennlist but so happy with the response and glad to have the support.
I'll get the wheel apart this evening and see if I can fix it. Not real good for my ego to be honking every 50 feet.

Arena993 · 09-22-2009, 01:38 PM

tranq993:

I have an extra steering wheel here if you need me to take pics of the grommets.

Mike

tranq993 · 09-22-2009, 01:44 PM

thanks mike- it can't hurt if you get time. I'll check back this evening. No worries if not
Phil

Arena993 · 09-22-2009, 01:47 PM

I'll get on it when I get home later today

Arena993 · 09-22-2009, 02:07 PM

Here are some others who have fixed the same problem

Warpig's fix:

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...315-post4.html

Slider's hose fix from 2005

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...193-post1.html

NC TRACKRAT

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...84-post20.html

Tj90

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...69-post21.html

This one

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ct-issues.html

This should isolate what you need to do.

Mike

texas911 · 09-22-2009, 03:41 PM

If you can't fix it in a hurry and want to drive your 993, you can also just pull fuse #3 out and it will disable your horn.

Denise993 · 09-23-2009, 09:51 AM

I had the same problem when I hit my brakes hard ... it was sort of funny until the people at the light in front of you think you are beeping to move them along ... not so funny. I'm way too chicken to mess around with the airbag, so told my mechanic the Rennlist quick fix of cutting some tubing and he had it fixed in a snap.

Warpig · 09-23-2009, 11:56 PM

Airbag = no problem. Just disconnect battery first and do not re-connect battery until the airbag is hooked back up and put back together.

This really is an easy fix with a tube of aquarium sealant (silicone sealant) It was harder to find the correct T25 torx driver for the job than the rest of the job (a short bit will not work) has to be a few inches long.

Nick

Edward · 09-24-2009, 01:46 AM

This not only is great, but also a very timely thread for me ...just started happening to me. Thanks, Mike, for all those links ...very cool! But I am trying first Robin's method ...non-intrusive is nice (aw heck, who am I kidding, it's the easiest fix so I'm a goin with that one

).

Edward

BufordTJ · 09-24-2009, 11:34 AM

Gott a fix this too. I pulled the fuse six months ago. I was so stupid. I thought someone kept honking at me. Even ask my wife if it was my horn, she thought it was Murphysflaw honking at me on one of our fun runs.

09-22-2009, 12:41 PM	#1
tranq993 New User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4	horn my 95's horn has started honking when I hit a bump or turn hard at speed. Any thoughts?

09-22-2009, 12:47 PM	#2
Robin 993DX Rennlist Lifetime Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Chino hills, CA Posts: 3,476	Common problems, it is the little o-ring bushings that's worn out inside the horn. Both 993 and 996 owners have had the same issue. Do a search you should find many discussion on this and solution for it. I got lazy and just stuck a folded paper between the horn and the steering wheel. Solved the horn problem and the horn still works if I press it. __________________ Robin Rennlist Lifetime Member 990415-1116 Rennlist 2nd Member 020204-3360 Rennlist 3rd Member 020215-3380 (Help support Rennlist, you can have more than one membership) 99 996DX4 (No frills Carrera 4 coupe daily beater) 06 Cayenne S Titanium Edition (RED!!!) (Family truckster) 02 Ferrari 360 Spider (Drama queen) 00 BMW 328i (Shop loaner) 96 993DX (2 wheel drive Carrera Coupe) SOLD! http://www.p-car.com

09-22-2009, 01:22 PM	#4
Arena993 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Home of the Derby Posts: 3,607	Soooooooo common. Like Robin said take the airbag off the steering wheel (disconnect battery 1st) and you will see the retaining ring for the airbag. The 4 (I think) black rubber gaskets are worn down. Someone here replaced the gasket with pieces of a rubber hose. The stealer will try to sell you a ton of stuff at $$$$$$$ but this is a simple DIY Mike __________________ 1995 Riviera Blue Cabriolet. Official hater of everything SMURF. My car is not the Smurfmobile. Look here - www.reutterwerk.com

09-22-2009, 01:38 PM	#6
Arena993 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Home of the Derby Posts: 3,607	tranq993: I have an extra steering wheel here if you need me to take pics of the grommets. Mike __________________ 1995 Riviera Blue Cabriolet. Official hater of everything SMURF. My car is not the Smurfmobile. Look here - www.reutterwerk.com

09-22-2009, 01:47 PM	#8
Arena993 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Home of the Derby Posts: 3,607	I'll get on it when I get home later today __________________ 1995 Riviera Blue Cabriolet. Official hater of everything SMURF. My car is not the Smurfmobile. Look here - www.reutterwerk.com

09-22-2009, 01:20 PM	#3
bbs993tt Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 668	I have the same issue going on in the Turbo right now. The guys at Ruf tell me the grommets are worn down and it's about a 10 minute fix. Trick is you have to have the right tool to remove the airbag. __________________ Brian 05 CGT - Fayence Yellow 96 993tt - Black/Black, 27k mi, Turbo S chin spoiler, Fabspeed muffler bypass pipes, clears 90 944S2 Cabriolet - gone 87 944 - gone

09-22-2009, 01:34 PM	#5
tranq993 New User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4	Thanks guys- first time to use rennlist but so happy with the response and glad to have the support. I'll get the wheel apart this evening and see if I can fix it. Not real good for my ego to be honking every 50 feet.

09-22-2009, 01:44 PM	#7
tranq993 New User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4	thanks mike- it can't hurt if you get time. I'll check back this evening. No worries if not Phil

09-22-2009, 02:07 PM	#9
Arena993 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Home of the Derby Posts: 3,607	Here are some others who have fixed the same problem Warpig's fix: http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...315-post4.html Slider's hose fix from 2005 http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...193-post1.html NC TRACKRAT http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...84-post20.html Tj90 http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...69-post21.html This one http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ct-issues.html This should isolate what you need to do. Mike __________________ 1995 Riviera Blue Cabriolet. Official hater of everything SMURF. My car is not the Smurfmobile. Look here - www.reutterwerk.com

09-22-2009, 03:41 PM	#10
texas911 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,224	If you can't fix it in a hurry and want to drive your 993, you can also just pull fuse #3 out and it will disable your horn. __________________ 001110010011000100110001 1995 911C2 - Silver/Grey 2007 911TT - Silver/Grey

09-23-2009, 09:51 AM	#11
Denise993 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 417	I had the same problem when I hit my brakes hard ... it was sort of funny until the people at the light in front of you think you are beeping to move them along ... not so funny. I'm way too chicken to mess around with the airbag, so told my mechanic the Rennlist quick fix of cutting some tubing and he had it fixed in a snap. __________________ -- Denise '95 C4 Cab; Triple Black; 6-speed; 18" MY02s; TPC Supercharger

09-23-2009, 11:56 PM	#12
Warpig Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Schaumburg, IL. Posts: 365	Airbag = no problem. Just disconnect battery first and do not re-connect battery until the airbag is hooked back up and put back together. This really is an easy fix with a tube of aquarium sealant (silicone sealant) It was harder to find the correct T25 torx driver for the job than the rest of the job (a short bit will not work) has to be a few inches long. Nick __________________ 95' 993 L92M Polar Silver Metallic 139 - Seat Heating - Left 220 - Locking Differential 224 - Active Brake Differential 340 - Seat Heating - Right 398 - Left Outside Mirror - Electric - Plain 454 - Automatic Speed Control 650 - Sunroof C02 - Equipped With Catalytic Converter XD4 - Porsche Crest Rim Caps Fister DiPietro Motorsports Short Shift Kit Fister DiPietro Motorsports Golden Rod Eibach Springs & Bilstein HD's

09-24-2009, 01:46 AM	#13
Edward Addicted Specialist Rennlist Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: So.CA Posts: 4,499	This not only is great, but also a very timely thread for me ...just started happening to me. Thanks, Mike, for all those links ...very cool! But I am trying first Robin's method ...non-intrusive is nice (aw heck, who am I kidding, it's the easiest fix so I'm a goin with that one ). Edward __________________ Support your local Rennlister: Pay it forward. 1995 Carrera Coupe - Guards Red and Grinning 1982 911SC Track Meister-in-Progress HWFM Proud!! RennMember 020407-3788

09-24-2009, 11:34 AM	#14
BufordTJ Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: AR Posts: 274	Gott a fix this too. I pulled the fuse six months ago. I was so stupid. I thought someone kept honking at me. Even ask my wife if it was my horn, she thought it was Murphysflaw honking at me on one of our fun runs. __________________ 1995 993 Cab. Polar Silver; RS Wing, splitters, and side skirts; PSS10, 18" Carrera III wheels w/ PS2's, strut tower brace, Motor Sound Air Box, DACH X-Pipes, 2" LPMM, Momo shifter, HIDs. Travis 2000 Toyota Tundra 4x4 2006 Dodge Ram HD Diesel 2007 Acura TL Gone but always remembered! 2001 Porsche Boxster Lapis Blue w/ Savanah 1989 Firebird Formula 350 Convertible 1993 Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible (Wife's)