New Wheels - OZ Alleggeritas in black - Page 5

mongrelcat · 11-06-2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floodj

Damon,
Do you have any of the blues in stock for a 95 993?
And, of course, we can expect a nice 25% off sale for Christmas...

This was posted in the other thread (Wheel and Tire forum)

Quote:

Originally Posted by damon@tirerack.com

W= White
MGS = Matte Graphite Silver (Dark gunmetal)
B = Black
A = Anthricite
O = Orange
Blue = Duh
R = Red
G = Green

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Porsche fitments:

MGS 18X8 5-130 ET50
W 18X8 5-130 ET50
B 18X8 5-130 ET50
A 18X8 5-130 ET50
O 18X8 5-130 ET50
BLUE 18X8 5-130 ET50
G 18X8 5-130 ET50
R 18X8 5-130 ET50
MGS 18X8 5-130 ET57
W 18X8 5-130 ET57
B 18X8 5-130 ET57
A 18X8 5-130 ET57
O 18X8 5-130 ET57
BLUE 18X8 5-130 ET57
G 18X8 5-130 ET57
R 18X8 5-130 ET57
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A 18X7 5-114 ET45
O 18X7 5-114 ET45
BLUE 18X7 5-114 ET45
G 18X7 5-114 ET45
R 18X7 5-114 ET45
MGS 18X7.5 5-100 ET48
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O 18X7.5 5-100 ET48
BLUE 18X7.5 5-100 ET48
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MGS 18X7.5 5-114 ET48
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O 18X7.5 5-114 ET48
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MGS 18X8 5-114 ET48
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O 18X8 5-120 ET34
BLUE 18X8 5-120 ET34
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R 18X8 5-120 ET40
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O 18X8.5 5-114 ET55
BLUE 18X8.5 5-114 ET55
G 18X8.5 5-114 ET55
R 18X8.5 5-114 ET55
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O 18X8.5 5-114 ET30
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G 18X8.5 5-114 ET30
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B 18X8.5 5-120 ET35
A 18X8.5 5-120 ET35
O 18X8.5 5-120 ET35
BLUE 18X8.5 5-120 ET35
G 18X8.5 5-120 ET35
R 18X8.5 5-120 ET35
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W 18X8.5 5-120 ET40
B 18X8.5 5-120 ET40
A 18X8.5 5-120 ET40
O 18X8.5 5-120 ET40
BLUE 18X8.5 5-120 ET40
G 18X8.5 5-120 ET40
R 18X8.5 5-120 ET40
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W 18X9 5-120 ET40
B 18X9 5-120 ET40
A 18X9 5-120 ET40
O 18X9 5-120 ET40
BLUE 18X9 5-120 ET40
G 18X9 5-120 ET40
R 18X9 5-120 ET40
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A 18X9.5 5-120 ET35
O 18X9.5 5-120 ET35
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G 18X9.5 5-120 ET35
R 18X9.5 5-120 ET35
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B 18X8.5 5-4.75 ET53
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O 18X8.5 5-4.75 ET53
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G 18X8.5 5-4.75 ET53
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O 16X7 4-100 ET37
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G 16X7 4-100 ET37
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mongrelcat · 11-06-2009, 11:46 PM

Damon also posted the following in the other thread [ http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ggerita-6.html ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by damon@tirerack.com

They are tested, and approved to the same JWL, VIA, TUV, and standards as forged wheels.

For real comparison and to give you guys some hard data I decided to match the load ratings of the low pressure cast, shot peened, and heat treated Alleggeritas to some forged wheels of the same size:

OZ Alleggerita 18 x 8.5, 40 ET = 1234 lbs.

BBS LM 18 x 8.5 = 1576 lbs
BBS RS-GT 18 x 8.5 = 1573 lbs.
SSR GT3 18 x 8.5 = 1518 lbs.
TRM F2 18 x 8.5 = 1620 lbs.
Volk TE37 = 1521 lbs.

Now, compare this to a gravity cast Enkei NT03 = 1576 lbs.

In theory the gravity cast wheel should have the lowest load capacity, but this one is right up there with forged wheels. Why? How it's shaped certainly, but also the quality of the construction. Enkei makes a very good wheel. The OZ may not have the highest load capacity, but it's close. And with a total rated capacity at almost 5000 lbs for the set this is CERTAINLY higher than the GAWR of the car.

Lateral load stresses certainly come into play when using a wheel on the track. That's one reason why even forged wheels break, and why it's imperative that all wheels used on the track be checked for cracks once in awhile. There is no such thing as a wheel that won't bend, break or crack if pushed too hard. How the wheel is made, in the long run, only really determines how long it eventually takes to happen if used on the track. Just the weights change.

Love the Dymag implosion pic. Case in point, here's a forged, one piece SSR Competition similiar to the OZ. It took him very little track time to do this to his wheel because he over-drove them and didn't inspect them for cracks once in awhile....

The other wheels were close.....

Hopefully this helps keep everything in context.

Tour18 · 11-07-2009, 12:06 AM

KEWEL. Just tonight I was looking at those at Tire Rack.

Floodj · 11-07-2009, 05:02 PM

I have a set of Enkie NT03s on my 993 right now. I have my winter tires on them, but I originally ran my MPSC on them at the track. They performed very well. My only complaint would be the silly looking bar that runs around the rim about an inch down the spokes--I think it clutters up the lines of the wheel. Oh, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why they have two value stems. Since I put my winter tires on the Enkies I need a new set of track wheels, and I was thinking those blue Alleggeritas would look pretty wild...

Evan Fullerton · 11-08-2009, 01:05 AM

The 2 valve stems are for purging the air in the tire. Common practice for hardcore track people with either dried air or nitrogen.

Floodj · 11-08-2009, 01:51 AM

Thanks Evan.
When you purge the air do you force air in one side and out the other, or just suck the air out of both?

Evan Fullerton · 11-08-2009, 03:25 AM

Well the way I have seen it done is with a system like this http://www.intercomp-racing.com/Prod...SYSTEM_737.cfm

or you can just fill and bleed to zero repeatedly by hand, it just takes longer. I don't really know why you would need or want two valve stems to do it (I have never had a wheel with 2 valve stems) but that is what they are market as for. I believe with two stems you can fill from one and bleed from the other simultaneously, displacing the air you have decided you don't like in the tire.

I am not so sure Nitrogen is really all it is cracked up to be though. The bottle the team I was crewing for was using was supposedly medical grade and it still had a 10psi change cold to hot, which is only a few psi better than dry air.

pstraub · 11-09-2009, 12:47 AM

With Satin Black center caps......

deputydog95 · 11-09-2009, 08:51 AM

Where did you get the center caps and black bolts (or probably nuts in your case)?

pstraub · 11-09-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deputydog95

Where did you get the center caps and black bolts (or probably nuts in your case)?

Center caps are OEM, part# 993 361 303 11 9A1, they list for about $19 each. They come in a gloss silver/black finish. I wet-sanded them to remove the clear coat, then just sprayed them with a good quality satin black for plastics. The black lug nuts are also OEM, don't have part number but I ordered them from FD Motorsports.

damon@tirerack.com · 11-09-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floodj

Damon,
Do you have any of the blues in stock for a 95 993?
And, of course, we can expect a nice 25% off sale for Christmas...

Blue is special order. Approx. 6 weeks.

Nugget · 12-30-2009, 07:09 PM

For what it's worth, I picked up a set of these from Tire Rack with R6s mounted for next year's track season. Weights (for just the wheels) are:

18x8.5 = 18.166 lbs
18x12 = 23.446 lbs

I'd wanted the orange, but apparently it'll be April before they do another run of that color, so I settled for black and I figure I'll get them painted when it's time for the next set of tires.

dcdude · 12-30-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore

That that they are $1,000 less (but not $2,000 less) than the BBS, Forgeline, Fikse wheels is seeming testament to either the compromise with weight versus strength and/or a marketing decision by CCW to not overprice their wheels.

I believe that MY02s and Turbo Twists are both made by BBS. I assume that they are cast, not forged. Does that mean that they are not suitable for track use?

jclanin · 12-30-2009, 08:28 PM

These look fantastic on your car. Simply awesome.

993BillW · 12-30-2009, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nugget

For what it's worth, I picked up a set of these from Tire Rack with R6s mounted for next year's track season. Weights (for just the wheels) are:

18x8.5 = 18.166 lbs
18x12 = 23.446 lbs

I'd wanted the orange, but apparently it'll be April before they do another run of that color, so I settled for black and I figure I'll get them painted when it's time for the next set of tires.

They look a little big for your car there!

11-07-2009, 12:06 AM	#63
Tour18 Addict Rennlist Member Rennlist Site Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Flower Mound, Texas Posts: 1,565	KEWEL. Just tonight I was looking at those at Tire Rack. __________________ '96 993TT, '02 Z06, '03 986S

12-30-2009, 07:09 PM	#72
Nugget Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston Texas USA Posts: 799	For what it's worth, I picked up a set of these from Tire Rack with R6s mounted for next year's track season. Weights (for just the wheels) are: 18x8.5 = 18.166 lbs 18x12 = 23.446 lbs I'd wanted the orange, but apparently it'll be April before they do another run of that color, so I settled for black and I figure I'll get them painted when it's time for the next set of tires. __________________ '07 GT3 RS

12-30-2009, 08:28 PM	#74
jclanin Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 160	These look fantastic on your car. Simply awesome. __________________ '96 993 C2, Black/Cashmere: RS Short Shifter, Bilstein HD's with M030 springs and F/R M030 sway bars, FPB, Big Ovals, Engine Tray Delete, New clutch w/RS single mass flywheel, Fister Stage III exhaust

11-08-2009, 01:05 AM	#65
Evan Fullerton Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 98	The 2 valve stems are for purging the air in the tire. Common practice for hardcore track people with either dried air or nitrogen.

11-08-2009, 01:51 AM	#66
Floodj Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Heidelberg, GE Posts: 410	Thanks Evan. When you purge the air do you force air in one side and out the other, or just suck the air out of both?

11-08-2009, 03:25 AM	#67
Evan Fullerton Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 98	Well the way I have seen it done is with a system like this http://www.intercomp-racing.com/Prod...SYSTEM_737.cfm or you can just fill and bleed to zero repeatedly by hand, it just takes longer. I don't really know why you would need or want two valve stems to do it (I have never had a wheel with 2 valve stems) but that is what they are market as for. I believe with two stems you can fill from one and bleed from the other simultaneously, displacing the air you have decided you don't like in the tire. I am not so sure Nitrogen is really all it is cracked up to be though. The bottle the team I was crewing for was using was supposedly medical grade and it still had a 10psi change cold to hot, which is only a few psi better than dry air.

11-09-2009, 08:51 AM	#69
deputydog95 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 740	Where did you get the center caps and black bolts (or probably nuts in your case)?