Noob with 993TT

02-18-2010, 12:05 AM

OK so its not a real 993TT but Im making it into one and its my first 911. Tha dude that ownd it before me upgraded it with a 993TT body kit and real 993TT interior and other parts but left tha motor stock. Tha paint job is tight its Lambo orange all over and its got Lambo doors. It runs smooth and tha AC is cold but its very slow for a 911 and needs an upgrade but it will do for now.

How much moo la does a 993TT motor run so I can start savin up for it.

Full Boost · 02-18-2010, 12:08 AM

Pics of the Lambo doors?

Simon.

ilko · 02-18-2010, 12:08 AM

You're looking at $25K for the 993TT motor.

Full Boost · 02-18-2010, 12:31 AM

Ilko,

Nice quote in your sig - LOVE it!

Simon.

porscheralph · 02-18-2010, 12:35 AM

OK - I will bite - what motor is that????? No cooling fan in sight. Anybody?

race911 · 02-18-2010, 12:37 AM

So I'm the first to notice this is a 912E?

race911 · 02-18-2010, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porscheralph

OK - I will bite - what motor is that????? No cooling fan in sight. Anybody?

VW Type 4.........down to what looks to be CA legal with the air pump. Thermal reactors on the bottom side? And a York A/C compressor! I had a couple of these to work on at my shop in Phoenix in the '80's.

Full Boost · 02-18-2010, 01:03 AM

PICS OF LAMBO DOORS!!!

Hamotee · 02-18-2010, 01:07 AM

Subscribed.

JPS · 02-18-2010, 01:13 AM

Ok, so I'll put it out there...
Good for you in coming to Rennlist to learn and ask Qs. It is a great resource.
You will probably need a thick skin because there are a lot of purists on the board, and your car is not exactly...pure. So I imagine you will get some flack, but also good info. Just sort through, hang on, and good luck.

JPP · 02-18-2010, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPS

Ok, so I'll put it out there...
Good for you in coming to Rennlist to learn and ask Qs. It is a great resource.
You will probably need a thick skin because there are a lot of purists on the board, and your car is not exactly...pure. So I imagine you will get some flack, but also good info. Just sort through, hang on, and good luck.

Nice job.

David in LA · 02-18-2010, 02:37 AM

Somebody spent a lot of money doing the conversion so far - body panels, interior, Big Red brakes etc. so if it was done well and you didn't overpay then its not a bad start for a project. That said, a TT motor is upwards of $20k plus you'll need a tranny, so figure all-in your cost will be well over $25-26k.

niche · 02-18-2010, 03:03 AM

I say leave it as is and drive a cool 912! Looks like a decent job. I would be afraid of having costs go above 25k, which you will never get back.

Evan Fullerton · 02-18-2010, 03:40 AM

You could leave it as a 912E but they are slower than molasses and some of the 912E specific engine parts are particularly hard to find. My dad has a nice 912E that is ok as a grocery getter and around town but really leaves you wanting power and even a meager amount of revs and it doesn't have big tire or brakes that it has to haul around. Your easiest/cheapest route would be a 3.2L Carrera motor if you need to stay smog legal like those of us in CA. What ever the case though you are going to either need to completely redo the trans or get one out of a 76-84 911 as the impute shaft for the T4 is not compatible with a Porsche-6.

CalvinC4S · 02-18-2010, 04:23 AM

looks like a twin turbo S, so you may want to get the correct ECU and exhaust tips to keep it right.

02-18-2010, 12:08 AM	#2
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02-18-2010, 12:08 AM	#3
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02-18-2010, 12:31 AM	#4
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02-18-2010, 12:35 AM	#5
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02-18-2010, 12:37 AM	#6
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02-18-2010, 01:03 AM	#8
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02-18-2010, 01:07 AM	#9
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02-18-2010, 01:13 AM	#10
JPS Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manhattan Posts: 2,885	Ok, so I'll put it out there... Good for you in coming to Rennlist to learn and ask Qs. It is a great resource. You will probably need a thick skin because there are a lot of purists on the board, and your car is not exactly...pure. So I imagine you will get some flack, but also good info. Just sort through, hang on, and good luck. __________________ JPS, National PCA instr. 1995 993 Midnight Blue Met. / marble grey coupe. JIC 8/11 kg, RS: sways, clutch, trans mount; regeared, LSD, LWFW, chip, GR, Euro Turbo/S: front/rear bumper, wing, ducts; strut brace, HID, FPB, Recaro. Track days: Schroth 6 pt, Pagid Yellow, Toyo RA/1, DAS rollbar, Halon, GoPro. For Sale: Click--> 95 993 cab, Iris Blue Metallic / marble grey. Alpine bluetooth / iPod deck, root wood shifter, 102k mi. Past: 95 993 Midnight Blue Metallic / Cashmere Cabriolet.

02-18-2010, 02:37 AM	#12
David in LA Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,333	Somebody spent a lot of money doing the conversion so far - body panels, interior, Big Red brakes etc. so if it was done well and you didn't overpay then its not a bad start for a project. That said, a TT motor is upwards of $20k plus you'll need a tranny, so figure all-in your cost will be well over $25-26k. __________________ David #021207-3420

02-18-2010, 03:03 AM	#13
niche Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,919	I say leave it as is and drive a cool 912! Looks like a decent job. I would be afraid of having costs go above 25k, which you will never get back. __________________ Javier Current Cars: 1991 Porsche 964 C4 2000 BMW 5 series 1995 Chevy Tahoe 4x4 Previous: 1996 RUF Turbo R (570hp) 1964 Porsche 356 C, 1998 BMW 5 Series, 2009 Scion XD, 2008 Mercedes ML, 1986 Porsche 911, 1997 Porsche Carrera 993, 2002 BMW X5 4.6is, 2008 Lexus IS 250, 01 BMW 740i Sport, 07 Camry, 97 BMW 528i, 91 BMW 535, 85/91 BMW 325, 96 Nissan Sentra, 86 Nissan 300zx Turbo, 80 BMW 320i, ? Geo Metro (1st car).

02-18-2010, 03:40 AM	#14
Evan Fullerton User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 200	You could leave it as a 912E but they are slower than molasses and some of the 912E specific engine parts are particularly hard to find. My dad has a nice 912E that is ok as a grocery getter and around town but really leaves you wanting power and even a meager amount of revs and it doesn't have big tire or brakes that it has to haul around. Your easiest/cheapest route would be a 3.2L Carrera motor if you need to stay smog legal like those of us in CA. What ever the case though you are going to either need to completely redo the trans or get one out of a 76-84 911 as the impute shaft for the T4 is not compatible with a Porsche-6.

02-18-2010, 04:23 AM	#15
CalvinC4S Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cave Creek, AZ Posts: 1,647	looks like a twin turbo S, so you may want to get the correct ECU and exhaust tips to keep it right.

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