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11-02-2011, 05:26 PM
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Well guys its now official... RSR IV is officially over. AIR CLD was finally returned to sunny Miami this morning. It already misses California although it babbled something about a Golden Rod.Thanks again to FDM for their willingness to accept, garage and return the car back to me...
11-02-2011, 06:49 PM
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Well guys its now official... RSR IV is officially over. AIR CLD was finally returned to sunny Miami this morning. It already misses California although it babbled something about a Golden Rod.Thanks again to FDM for their willingness to accept, garage and return the car back to me...
11-02-2011, 08:11 PM
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and that reminds me... meant to change my avatar shot for another of the shots she took. This one is actually my desktop background
Cool shot!
Below is a repost of my favorite pic from my own camera
(Jason/Daisy, with Daisy taking pix of my car and JP in the mirror!)
Couldn't have planned this if we'd tried
11-02-2011, 09:36 PM
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Even before I flew to Europe in late 2007 to consider importing a 993 Speedster conversion, I was interested in US DOT importation of ROW cars. RLer RJT had previously posted elsewhere that one of Seinfeld's previous 993s took nine years to be approved 
; enough reason not to import a Euro 993 Speedster then.
Good to learn the GT2's process only took ~a year 'til it was road-legal (as opposed to above report):
I just got information from the source this morning
Purchased in 2010, it was federalized per U.S. Department of Transportation regulations, the final US governmental approval was received just days before Rennsport Reunion.
(Reminds me of Speedy's build being completed the day befTore the 2009 annual PCA Parade Concours d'Elegance. I'm no Seinfeld, but I can personally understand his elation of driving a unique 993 to a big debut
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Also received three new photos to hopefully share, but have to confirm that's OK before posting. In the meantime, below are some publically-available shots, & I'll add a couple more soon.
Hopefully helpful:
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; enough reason not to import a Euro 993 Speedster then.Good to learn the GT2's process only took ~a year 'til it was road-legal (as opposed to above report):
I just got information from the source this morning
Purchased in 2010, it was federalized per U.S. Department of Transportation regulations, the final US governmental approval was received just days before Rennsport Reunion.
(Reminds me of Speedy's build being completed the day befTore the 2009 annual PCA Parade Concours d'Elegance. I'm no Seinfeld, but I can personally understand his elation of driving a unique 993 to a big debut
)Also received three new photos to hopefully share, but have to confirm that's OK before posting. In the meantime, below are some publically-available shots, & I'll add a couple more soon.
Hopefully helpful:
Mr. Pumpkin Head[/B]"
11-02-2011, 10:05 PM
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Plus, since they've been doing 959's the amount of time it has taken the Fed's to grant importation has dropped considerably. It's a total government scam funded by American importers that were worried about their business getting undercut back in the 90's ... 25 years old is the current 'cut off' date for exemption ... you're still young enough to benefit :-)
11-02-2011, 10:19 PM
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I'm on the hunt for a late Lancia Delta Integrale in Italy. The good ones are 1990/91 so I'll wait a few more years to import it. I've handled all the paperwork and inspections on the Fiats that I've imported and it actually pretty easy once you've done a few. Florida is so lax on inspections it's crazy. As long as you have your ducks in a row and provide copies of all paperwork all they then require is you to bring the vehicle to the inspection station so they can see the vin.As usual 25 years is the cutoff, but that has been easily "modified" by many friends locally. This is the Banana Republic...
11-02-2011, 10:20 PM
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Plan was for show or display. Despite the fact the GT2 seemed to meet all criteria, the DOT chose not to approve it through that process, necessitating a full EPA conversion.
As JPP said: at least the time required for that has shortened.
Trivia: First time Mr. Seinfeld saw it in person was the Sat AM that Rennsport started.
Canepa is now one of the businesses recognized by the Fed's as a converter for grey market vehicles.
I've heard the number $60K bandied about for the process/parts/labor to do it.
Plus, since they've been doing 959's the amount of time it has taken the Fed's to grant importation has dropped considerably.
FWIW, there were at least 3 importers approved for DOT legalization / EPA conversion last time I looked into this.
At least 2 of them have experience federalizing 959s.
More of Jerry's 'new' GT2:
11-02-2011, 10:44 PM
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Illustrating some of the unpredictability that can still happen with US federalization & importation:
Plan was for show or display. Despite the fact the GT2 seemed to meet all criteria, the DOT chose not to approve it through that process, necessitating a full EPA conversion.
Plan was for show or display. Despite the fact the GT2 seemed to meet all criteria, the DOT chose not to approve it through that process, necessitating a full EPA conversion.
Also, something that's really interested me since I started 'researching' these cars ... which country designates the European length turn signal corner lenses in Amber? France?
11-02-2011, 10:47 PM
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I just read the recent Panorama on the plane, amd they discussed the 2 of the last 8 959's that came to the US. They say the show/display tags are good for approx 1500 miles on the roads/year.
The big difference is you "Can't drive it on public roads ... period". Of course, there were several sightings of 959's in north Washington State close to the Canadian border over the years that came in to North America on that loophole (I wonder who's those cars would be ...) but, Canepa is now one of the only businesses recognized by the Fed's as a legitimate importer/converter for grey market vehicles and that is a big deal for them. I've heard the number $60K bandied about for the process/parts/labor to do it and on cars worth $300-500K it doesn't seem unreasonable. Plus, since they've been doing 959's the amount of time it has taken the Fed's to grant importation has dropped considerably. It's a total government scam funded by American importers that were worried about their business getting undercut back in the 90's ... 25 years old is the current 'cut off' date for exemption ... you're still young enough to benefit :-)
Plus, since they've been doing 959's the amount of time it has taken the Fed's to grant importation has dropped considerably. It's a total government scam funded by American importers that were worried about their business getting undercut back in the 90's ... 25 years old is the current 'cut off' date for exemption ... you're still young enough to benefit :-)
11-02-2011, 10:51 PM
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Really! Wow, well that would be a no-brainer then and a change from the original restrictions. But it doesn't surprise me because I think the entire law was revised in 2005.
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11-03-2011, 12:07 AM
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Just reviewed this article (thanks Ed ..) and was surprised to learn that the original 1999 law, which was written as a result of Gates/Allen pushing to get their cars out of customs after 13 years, allows for 2500 yearly miles of driving on a show and display importation if the car can pass 1987 smog regulations. Jeezus, I don't put anywhere near that many annual miles on any of my cars ...
11-03-2011, 02:16 AM
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If the cars are 25 years or older you can import and register them without an real issues. I wonder if that will be reason for more unfederalized/ un-show and display act'ed 959's now to be imported by private owners? Canepa wouldn't have to get involved in paperwork anymore.