CamsPorsche

Hi Rennlisters -

I'm looking at this 96 C4S advertised at Smith Volvo in California. The 911 has 85k miles and has been a 5 owner car (ran the Carfax already).

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...aff=national#0

As I'm awaiting information on this car as to whether it comes with past service records etc. what would a car such as this sell for? What's a fair price if the car checks out with no leaks etc. To me $38k is strong considering the mileage and other C4S's out there with less mileage in the 40's.

Opinions?

Magdaddy

that dealership has been complimented on here before as having good cars.

It looks clean, low optioned, can't tell if it's at stock ride height or not. Service records would be important naturally, you would be doing a 90K service immediately.

If stock suspension is still there, add $$ for that, and clutch condition-history to consider also.

Not my fav color combo, but common to have the Classic grey with the AR.

Listed at a reasonable price considering it's at a dealer...if everything mechanically checks out, and you get some records...it would be a very nice car at $35-36K.

Of course accident/paint history and any mechanical needs should reduce that, but still a solid car for that money.

Good luck!

95 NC 993

Magdaddy is spot on with that post. Not really thrilled about 5 prior owners though. That would be my only pause. How come no one loved this car and kept it for awhile??

CamsPorsche

my thoughts exactly...the mileage scares me a bit but I do want an Arena Red C4S. If a PPI shows that the car has been well cared for and its presently in great shape then a deal might be had.

My ex-NSX was a 4 owner car and it was mint so the number of owners isn't a true reflection of a cars condition although it would hint at wear and tear.

NP993

I would rather buy a car that had been owned by five enthusiasts who maintained it properly than a one-owner car that was abused and neglected.

CamsPorsche

I'm now actively looking for a widebody Arena Red 993. I'm open to either Carrera S or C4S (preferred) and happy with mileage over 50k and any interior color.

I'm looking at the following sources:

1. Rennlist Classifieds
2. 6speedonline
3. Autotrader
4. Cars.com
5. Sloan Cars
6. Wilhoit
7. Holt Motorsports
8. Truspeed
9. Ebay

and there was another 993 dealer that I believe was a mom and pop shop in the country and only dealt with 993's. Anyone know the name of that dealer? From past recollection it appeared to be an acreage...

Thanks!
Cam

deadhead1960

Add Craigslist and if you're a member, PCA.org.

Having owned an Arena Red 993, they are a bit more difficult to sell than the classic colors; use that to your advantage when negotiating price.

Here's a nice example from PCA (no affiliation):

911 C4S Coupe

Details:
Ad #: 6315
Ad Date: 11/10/2011
Year: 1996
Model: 911 Carrera 4S
Miles: 34800
Price: $47,900.00
Exterior Color: Red
Interior Color: Gray
Seller Type: Private Seller
Location: Tucson, AZ
Company:
Body Type: Coupe
Make:
Wheel Size: 18
Phone: 520-395-0809
Installed Options:
Air Conditioning
Intermittent Wipers
Leather Seats
Power Locks
Heated Seats
Sport Seats
Sunroof
Xenon Headlights
Foglamps
CD Player
Description:
2nd owner, one of the last two vehicles in my previous collection of Porsche automobiles; 34,800 original miles; totally original paint/interior/etc; never damaged; never molested; no paint work of any kind; garage-kept, non-smoker, recent 30K dealer service, nicely optioned from factory (sport/leather seats, rear wiper, HiFi Sound, Remote CD, heated seats, etc.); sorry, not interested in trades.

boman993

Another thing to mention; that AR C4S in California has been on sale for over a
year..I've seen it go from 43K, 41K, 40K, to 37,9....I bet you could
squeeze a pretty good deal if they're ready to move it.

CamsPorsche

_boman I tried to get the Arena Red in Ontario but they won't budge under $50k Cdn and then all of the taxes above and beyond...expensive.

Yes, we'll see what this dealership comes back with. The service history will be key however I expect that it will not have a full history.

cpdjfd107

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1996-...item19cb8851c8

Looks pretty nice.

CamsPorsche

Saw that one and pulled the Carfax for it. Only serviced twice in its history according to the records pulled...once at 41,296 and again at 67,438. Jim Ellis Porsche did a PPI at 92k so I wonder if its for this dealer?

boman993

Sweet, good luck! Once you get your car; all the GTA guys with wide bodies need
to get together for a proper photoshoot in the spring!

e9stibi

Do not overate Carfax. There are enthusiasts that do the basic maintenance -> not in carfax. It is all about documentation and condition of the car. Same applies to repainting. Your criteria are already narrow with model and color that I would consider a well repaired car, too.

95 NC 993

Don't forget www.hemmings.com just in case. I know Holt advertises a lot in there plus others.

cmd4

The one on ebay's was from a guy around here(NC),and the AR in cal. should be able to get picked up for mid thirties as others said.I've talked to that dealer before and it seems like a descent c4s ,plus they sounded pretty negotiable...hit em low,worst they can say is no.They HAVE had it for a looooooong time!