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Old 02-21-2012, 06:06 AM
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Sorry, an e-fight

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Old 02-21-2012, 08:45 PM
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In my humble opinion, the M96 motor and its less than stellar reputation are the 996's worst enemy. A far greater supply of the later car doesn't help its value either. Style is a personal matter so I'll leave that alone.

I bought a 2002 996 C2 in the spring of 2008, drove it for 6-months and 6500 miles, then traded it for a 97 993 with more miles. Why? The thought of having to replace that 3.6 in the back scared the crap out of me. I bought the car with a fresh, Porsche-replaced motor (done @ 25000ish miles) and had zero issues with the car. But stories of multiple engine replacements kept me in a cold sweat. Also, despite being a quicker/faster car than the 993, it just didn't light my fire. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be someone else's dream, just not mine.
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Originally Posted by timothymoffat
In my humble opinion, the M96 motor and its less than stellar reputation are the 996's worst enemy.
Maybe - did you look back and check out the lines of the car every time you parked it? Did you thrill over those boy-hips? Weirdly shaped headlights?

Just joking with you Tim, yes the engine was a big issue, but so was the looks. The car is just so, well, blahh.



I had a neighbor where we competed on bettering each other. Years ago, I wanted a 911, and he heard about it, and bought a 76 911S before I got my 911. A few months later, I bought a 83SC. Years later, I kept it quiet, but bought a 993 Targa, and surprised him by it showing up in my garage unannounced....so he went out and bought a 996 to outdo me. BIG MISTAKE - he lost that one!

Cheers,

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Old 02-29-2012, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JPP
Ok. You're stuck in Bogota, Columbia and you need to drive to an airport on the other side of the country to get a plane out. You go to the only rental car place in sight and they have two cars available for the same rate: .. a brand new Hundai OR a Silver/black '99 996 with 100K miles on it .. which car do you rent?
What model Hundai? J/K !
Old 04-02-2012, 08:56 PM
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In my humble opinion, the M96 motor and its less than stellar reputation are the 996's worst enemy. A far greater supply of the later car doesn't help its value either. Style is a personal matter so I'll leave that alone.
I bought my first 911 the 996 4S in summer 2007 and was very happy with it, but time later find out that a lot of people had engine problem with the M96 and soon disappointed I began loosing my passion with Porsche, decide to sell and forget about the experience, but I was happy to start looking for a 993 Turbo that I find right after the sell of the magnificient 996
Today I know that I made the sound decision, 2,5 years are gone and my hearth still love the 993 Turbo
My wife have another opinion about that, she keep saying that the 996 4S was more modern and beautiful
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Originally Posted by mausone46
magnificent 996
Good one!
Old 04-02-2012, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by goofballdeluxe
I can tell you that this thread was very helpful in helping me decide what to have for breakfast this morning.

Thanks, guys
Wow, I have that exact same skillet.
Old 04-02-2012, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Burdell
Wow, I have that exact same skillet.
It's model #996. It tends to blow up after many uses, but it's very fast at cooking things
Old 04-02-2012, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Sometimes when you drive your childhood dream cars, you end up being disappointed.
I can relate to this. In the early 90s as a twenty something year old, I wanted a 911. I test drove a few 911 SCs and loved the tight steering feeling they had. At the time during the test drives I did not drive these cars anywhere near their limits, but one of the owners did drive the car a lot faster than I drove it, and it was a cool experience. To my amateur eyes, it felt like a race car. But in the 1990s I did not really have the money to buy a 911 (friends and family joked what was I going to do, live in my car). So the dream (call it childhood dreams if we must) persisted. Go back a few years now and there I was in a much better position to own a Porsche and initially I was thinking of buying a 964 or a 996 because they were more affordable than the 993 (997s were out of my price range). Here in Calgary there is a high end used sports car broker and one of his customers bought a GT3 off of him and part of their deal was the broker would find a buyer for the client's 993. Well that buyer was myself. The 993 was a good 10k more than I would have paid for a 964 or 996. This high end used sport car broker has a good reputation, and this 993 was by far the least expensive car by a good 40-50k in his show room. He didn't know me so he wasn't going to give me a test drive (I guess he has seen plenty of test pilots in his years in the business) and he told me "you are just going to have to trust me when I tell you this 993 is pristine". Well he was not lying, the car was pristine. But the reason why I am writing this is because when I drove away from this broker's show room I was actually underwhelmed and a tad disappointed that the 993 with it's power steering did not give me the same tight feel I remembered from those 911 SCs I test drove back in the 1990s. But I am happy to report that the 993 has grow on me in time. Within a few months of owning the 993, I began to track it at my local race track and fell in love with it then. I do lust for the power of a GT3, but I am able to drive the 993 close to it's limits and it has been an absolutely fantastic car to learn on at the track. I am sure I would have liked a 964 or a 996 and maybe one day I can own my dream car (a GT3 RS), but the 993 is awesome despite that initial let down feeling I had when I first drove it home from the broker's show room. You really do need to track these cars to appreciate how Porsche has engineered them from their rich racing heritage.
Old 04-03-2012, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike J
Maybe - did you look back and check out the lines of the car every time you parked it? Did you thrill over those boy-hips? Weirdly shaped headlights?

Mike
So true. Turning around everytime I park. Worse yet, I still can't go to bed without opening the garage door one last time and check that everything is ok, curves included, well tucked in...
Old 05-08-2012, 01:29 AM
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Smile Any hints re how to drive the first 500 kms in my 993?

Hi All,

Just got my first 993 after selling my 356A.

Any hints how to drive the first 500 kms?

Tx to all

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Old 05-08-2012, 10:28 AM
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^^^^^^^^

Many turns at all speeds, with a wide smile and warm feeling deep in your stomach, knowing... that at last, nirvana is just around the next bend....
Old 05-08-2012, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by layla993
Hi All,

Just got my first 993 after selling my 356A.

Any hints how to drive the first 500 kms?

Tx to all

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Carefully.... You now have the power in the rear to spin the car. Probably not the same in the 356. The suspension is miles ahead of the older 911s, but the oversteer isn't "gone forever". Go do some PCA AX or driving schools with it and learn a little about her. She's a joy to own, but she WILL bite you if not driven with care.

The gas pedal is fun, but I think you'll be just as impressed by the middle pedal.

+1 on the NIRVANA comment above! ENJOY!
Old 05-08-2012, 06:08 PM
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I do the same exact thing. In fact I went into the garage at 11:30 PM the other night and gave her one more wipe-down with the spray detailer just to make sure she was perfect...is that weird or what???



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