Paddy

Interesting, I have had nothing but good luck w/ the Michelin brand. Be it slicks, winter tires, tires on my F250, MPSS, and MPSC.

I had a set of the AD08's and thought the Michelin Pilot Sport Cups were superior in every way. From wear rate, grip, noise, and in the wet.

-Paddy

M. Schneider

Hey NYC993 (great city the City is)

As an example the high performance, speed rated Dunlop SP winter Sport 3D snow tire states . . “ * Directional tread design enhances wet handling and deep water performance” end quote. The (JP) Falken Euro Sport I’m running this winter/spring as a rain tire is similarly positioned to the Dunlop SP. Our cars in the Colorado mountains I’m running the Dunlop SP/3D on our kombi for the balance of the winter season and then as a “rain tire” for Spring. The ever changing weather in the CO mountains is cruel.

In July/August of ’94 a PAG crew was in Vail, CO performing high altitude testing for the 3.6l ODB II (intro ’96 993). The 911 mule coupes were shod with Dunlop directional snow tires in the summer. When asked the answer was “resistance to hydroplaning and solid braking”. Armed with that experience I ran Dunlop SP Winter Sport 2D both on my MY96 Audi UrS6 Kombi and on my wife’s MY00 Audi S4 sedan.

A practice was born; directional snow tires as rain tires . . . . The tire performance in the rain is outstanding !


PS, Summer tire: Michelin PS2/Cup II/M033 w/RoW S coupe sway's.

brad@tirerack.com

Wow, lots of quick feedback in this thread! Nourm, please give me a call. I'd love to ask some questions and you pick a set out that matches your needs. Thanks.

oMenRC51

gang bang for your buck = sumitomos

AZ Targa

I agree with you Paddy, I don't have anything bad to say about Michelin. When i worked at a tire shop michelin was one of the brands that had the fewest problems/complaints. Michelin is the only brand of tire I use on my cars or motorcycle.

csmab

Happy with my Hankooks.

NYC993

I hear you and read this before that winter tires due to being basically a sponge resist hydroplaning very well. That would make a difference on a flooded road or in slush. In warm weather, winter tires become very soft and just can't match a decent set of summer tires even in wet and cool temps.

Read the wet performance section of this comparo:
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/f...vs-summer.html

While it was surprise when I read this...it was proven to be true on one of our local drives. In rainy 50-60 degree weather, the summer tires outperformed winter tires by a very large margin. Not even close.

Of course if you expect wet and 30 degrees or some snow, forget the summer tires.

Rinty

I've had Sumi III's for a few years now, and am really happy with them. I drove in a lot of rain on a long trip last year, including some monsoon conditions, and experience no slippage in the corners and very little hydroplaning in pools of water.

However, I read in another sub forum here that they have been discontinued, and my dealer confirmed they couldn't get any more.

I'm in a bit of a quandary because I need 2 fronts, so I'm thinking of getting some Continental DW's.

Kika

Tirerack shows HTR ZIIIs 225/40 18s in stock, or are you running 17s?

M. Schneider

Hey, I read this tire article in Edmund's laying out a test btw summer, all-season and winter version tires . . . .
Tone counts.

993RS

I like Pirelli Pzero rosso....

Rinty

Yes, 17's, thanks.

nourm

Damon, I actually called tirerack yesterday, spoke to Luke and decided on the Sumi-IIIs. Thanks for the offer and thank you everyone for the suggestions!

cgfen

Since you live in VA and I live in San Diego, I defer to your expertise and experience for wet weather driving.

cheers

Craig

H.H.Chinn

I was torn on which tire to go with either the Hankooks V12 or Sumitomos ZIIIs so, I went with MikeJ's recommendation of the Sumi ZIII's. They should be here in a couple of days.