cmat

Another variable in ride quality is your wheel/ tire combination. Typically 18" wheels will result in a less compliant ride.

Try to ride in cars with different setups before deciding on which way to go so you get it right the first time. I should have followed this advice.

milehigh993

right now when i throw it into a corner at 100+ it feels like a south korean ferry boat and needs to be a lot stiffer without the nose to tail wagging, i know that it is time and i know that i will get unbiased info here

milehigh993

down to H&R 29954-1 or bilsteins pss9/pss10 48-132688 , do not want to lower my car because front air dam drags coming out of driveways now and it sounds like with hrs it will lower it even more will the bilsteins lower my ride also

Jwolf427

If you get coil overs you can set the height to stock or raise it to stop from dragging coming out of you driveway.

race911

Really? Can't say I even get to do that on track........... And no way, no how, am I on limit with any 911 that is riding a hard slip angle anywhere near triple digits.

milehigh993

after all day reading up on H&R and Bilsteins I am still do not know how to go and if i need to get adjustable or not. after reading the H&R wed site they said that they work with koni to valve there coilovers, has anyone ran the new koni setups yet

Warehouse33.net

Another brand to consider is KW and Koni's seem to popular lately too.

-Jason

Bill Verburg

MCS are great shocks but the #1 feature that makes them so nice is the oe digressive valving, PSSS9 and 10 also have this feature stock. The MCS is shorter and designed for lower cars w/ much stiffer springing than PSS9/10 whicjh is really just a hd street setup.

Bilstein hd(b6) unfortunately do not come stock w/ digressive valving, but for a nominal fee that can be changed and the whole install will be 1/4 of the MCS and provide 3/4 of the performance.

A step up for the Bilstein hd is the Bilstein Cup shock(also sold a H&R), thee are shorter shocks like the MCS and designed for stiffer springs but unfortunately have smae old style linear valving as the hd's, again this can be changed and for 1/3 the price of the MCS you get 7/8 of the performance

Bothe MCS and the Cup are track shocks that can be used on the street, the hd and PSS(/10 are street shocks that can be used on the track.

To get the most from any of these you also need to be concerned w/ the bushes on all 14 suspension arms on the car

jstyer

Great post above ^^^^

Bill, who do you like for revalving bilstein/h&r cup shocks?

I like the ride height range and durability of the cup shock, but would like to have it revalved for a digressive curve for around 425f/600r springs.

willus

I'm interested in considering this option, but I cannot find a reference to Bilstein Cup shocks/struts anywhere on the Bilstein website (quick google search didn't help much either). Has the name changed?

KaiB

Nah Ken...you just don't know how to "throw a car into a corner".

It's kind of like "mashing the brakes" or "yanking the wheel".

You haven't been racing long enough to know this though...

Bill Verburg

Bilstein San Diego

Bill Verburg

They are getting hard to find
you can use Bilstein VE3-05816 L & VE3-05816R front or VE3-06077 L & VE3-6078 R front, the only difference is valving which you should change anyway

BE5-2353 rear

Remember that these are for very low race cars w/ RS wheel carriers and solid rear sides, you also need to buy matching springs and perches

Allshocks has them

But I would work w/ a trusted shop that is familiar w/ race setups, these are very street able w/ revalving but the are not a pre packaged consumer friendly solution, like the PSS9/10, same goes for Moton or MCS as well, ie work w/ someone familair w/ race setups

race911

Sure I do...........with the 910. Bias plys and all, coupled with slooooooow steering. Just wait til Erik finishes the 910 Bergspyder sometime this summer/fall. Yeah, yeah no flat 8--we aren't that rich.

milehigh993

thanks for the info, lots of the type of info that I can use to make a decision, I am looking at the pss10's since roads here are ruff and I do drive it on mountain and canyons roads and want to leave as much road clearance as possible but can still do a track setup with a height and damp adjustment. I hope that I can help someone else in the future like everybody has done here for me. I will try the pss10's this summer and if needed have them reworked this winter once I can get a good read on them and the car is put up