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Old 07-29-2014, 11:55 PM
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I did an oil change today on my 993.
Everything was fine until I was on my tenth quart of Mobil 1.
As I looked down the oil filler spout with a flashlight,
I noticed little bits of plastic stuck to the sides.
I put my finger in there and pulled on the plastic cap that holds a spring
only to find the spring had a plastic cover on it that had deteriorated and had gone into the oil.
I have no idea what this spring does but I'm not putting it back in there.
If someone knows please tell us!
This is my 11th 911 and I do all my own work but I have never come across this before.
I see this as a major potential problem so be sure to check yours before it's too late.
Tomorrow I'm going to do another oil change and I'm going to cut the filters open to see what I may find.
I'm also going to cut the old filters to see if there's anything in there too.
The photo shows clearly what I'm talking about.



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Old 07-30-2014, 12:05 AM
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Yikes!

That looks like the fill bellows has disintegrated.

It is designed to pull out and flex, making the oil fill easier.

On two of my cars it has been removed. Now I know why.

There may be some particles in the oil tank as well.

That is not good.

Many thanks for posting.

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Old 07-30-2014, 12:10 AM
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Yea, I've removed that bellow on both of my cars. Use a funnel.
Old 07-30-2014, 12:15 AM
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On 3 of my 4 cars including a 964 same thing, so I had all 3 replaced just 2 months ago.
Old 07-30-2014, 12:24 AM
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I've never seen a part like this on a 964... unlike the 993 PET diagram, I don't see anything on the 964 PET diagram that resembles this piece...
Old 07-30-2014, 12:36 AM
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Thanks for the heads up! I have never noticed anything of the sort when filling my 95 but I will certainly double check with a flashlight as suggested. Hopefully it's already been removed!
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Thanks for posting...Mine was completely intact, but after seeing the results of age, I have since removed the rascal.
Old 07-30-2014, 01:54 AM
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Mine was cracked so it leaked whenever I used it. I plan on replacing it during the next oil change.
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Is there anything that I would need to know to remove mine (1996)?
Old 07-30-2014, 02:43 AM
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Mine just cracked last weekend. I usually place a rag under the filler opening to catch overflowint oil but this one time I didn't. I pulled the bellow and began filling. At some point I noticed I had placed half the oil onto the valve covers because the bellow cracked half way through.
Cost was 20.- for a replacement + 1 hour of cleaning up the valve covers.
I considered leaving it out and use a funnel but decided against it.
Just don't forget that rag
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Thanks for the heads up. Mine's coming out asap
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Originally Posted by 911Jeff
Is there anything that I would need to know to remove mine (1996)?
Not really, Just look down your filler tube with a flashlight. It's right there about 2" down. If you put your finger in you can just pull on the circular plastic and it snaps off. Then the spring and the bottom cap follows.
If this spring tube is deteriorated, it will spread in your oil very quickly.
After working on 911's since the 70's this has to be the worst mistake the engineers made in choosing a material to use in the most important and very critical part, the bloodline of our cars.
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Originally Posted by c993k
Not really, Just look down your filler tube with a flashlight. It's right there about 2" down. If you put your finger in you can just pull on the circular plastic and it snaps off. Then the spring and the bottom cap follows.
If this spring tube is deteriorated, it will spread in your oil very quickly.
After working on 911's since the 70's this has to be the worst mistake the engineers made in choosing a material to use in the most important and very critical part, the bloodline of our cars.
MANY thanks!!

Mine's coming out this weekend!!
Old 07-30-2014, 07:57 AM
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wow...mine has a little net on the bottom (to catch any big objects you may drop into the tube), which is completely gone in your photo.
Thanks for sharing.
Old 07-30-2014, 08:45 AM
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Wow, should look like this!



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