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Old 02-02-2015, 11:59 AM
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Default 1996 29k miles C4S Turbo Conversion on SF bay CL

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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/4872468961.html
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Tiptronic transmission?
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I think all 4WD 993's are manuals
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Says it has a RS flywheel and clutch
Old 02-02-2015, 05:13 PM
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I saw this car a few years ago when it belonged to a Rennlister. Not sure if he's still the owner though.
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The ad reads "transmission : automatic" which made me raise the question about tiptronic.

Also, I work in San Rafael and could easily Rennfax this 993 for someone if they're interested from afar.
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They must have updated the ad. Now says "transmission : manual"
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$80K for a Frankenporsche

Take that $80K and buy a nice C2S/C4S instead, or if speed is your need, a 997TT. Both would be a far better buy
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I don't think its that bad, a C4S with 29k miles converted to a 430 hp turbo. If the conversion is done well and you want something to drive and enjoy, it might be a good option; especially given the current price for a factory turbo.
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Originally Posted by autobonrun
I don't think its that bad, a C4S with 29k miles converted to a 430 hp turbo. If the conversion is done well and you want something to drive and enjoy, it might be a good option; especially given the current price for a factory turbo.
Thing is, a C4S with 29K is also worth $80K. All these mods did was kill it's originality and worth.

This car will need a "special" person to see it's value, as $80K buys you so many nice cars with more horses/faster and others that will hold their value much better
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If the work was done well, I wouldn't consider it to be an undesirable car. Granted, the prospective buyer pool nonetheless may be smaller than a non-molested car, but there are buyers who will see this as a $20k-70k savings over a factory TT.

I also wouldn't consider it a Frankencar. To me, Frankencar connotes batardizing a car so that it's no longer recognizable as appearing like a factory model, and/or combines different components from different cars. This car doesn't fit that description.
Old 02-04-2015, 01:24 AM
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The Cayman GT4 just made the $80k price point a bit more competitive though. I'd have a hard time justifying $80k for this car as a driver, when I could have a brand new factory tuned track car like the GT4 for comparable money.
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I think it's a very fair price. Looks great!
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Originally Posted by Spyder_Man
The Cayman GT4 just made the $80k price point a bit more competitive though. I'd have a hard time justifying $80k for this car as a driver, when I could have a brand new factory tuned track car like the GT4 for comparable money.
I'm with you. Certainly, given those and only those choices, I'd be pursuing the Cayman.
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Ha.....I just stumbled across this.

The car in question is mine. I listed it for 5 days and got clobbered by inquiries. I had to take it down and re-evaluate things.

I know the car does not appeal to many. Turbo guys reject it like it's a tranny and the NA guys hate that it's turbocharged.

That being said I sold my TT to buy this car. The TT was AWESOME WOT but lacked the responsiveness and snappy personality of a NA 993. The 993 NA while snappy and responsive did not have the overall power I felt the car needed. If you have driven both the C4S and the Turbo you'll know what I am taking about.

Turbo charging a VRAM motor you end up with the best of both worlds. The larger ports, bigger cams, VRAM and higher compression make for a wonderful combination. I built the motor, added custom cams, arrow rods and welded/flame ringed the heads. The car is currently tuned for 100oct but can be re-tuned for 91-93 or better yet E85. I built it with the intention of running E85 hence the higher compression. I am going to add a EBC and make the torque curve even flatter. Should roll out the big end at 460whp after.

Different strokes I guess. I got what I wanted a 430whp (500 crank?) that feels like a GT3 motor. Purists be damned! I feel the car will be better received as the years roll on.
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