Has your 911 become a garage trophy that you never drive?
#32
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You know it's not true even here at rennlist. Many are obsessed about low miles and values. Those who are proud to be driving them are more likely to state so, except for Ken
I used to DD my 993 for errands, and then it got annoying to drive it at 30mph around town knowing what it was made for, so I take my SUV.
I used to DD my 993 for errands, and then it got annoying to drive it at 30mph around town knowing what it was made for, so I take my SUV.
Ken (RACE911) has touched on a significant point namely, it all depends on the type of activities in which we participate. Our F150 is the family workhorse, hauling the trailer to the track, mulch to the garden, furniture, car parts, groceries, you name it. Then there's other car clubs, other hobbies and activities where a 993 just wouldn't be a good choice. Although used infrequently, the 993's are still the most enjoyable.
But mainly it's about being stuck in a ____ environment here in the Bay Area. I'm surprised I haven't bent a steel wheel or two on the near 20 year old F150 I pound out the miles on. Oh yeah, then there's the people--when I was a teen with a 911 I never got a negative reaction. Now with a 996 Turbo that's actually older, relative to its production date than the '68 I had at 18? Open season for the oh-so superior class to make snide comments.
#33
Drifting
Just ticked past 180,000 miles here and neither I nor the car show any signs of slowing. I bought my 911 with the intention of driving, and nothing is changing that (other than maybe needing a functional back seat at some point in my life).
#34
Burning Brakes
Same boat here unfortunately. We have a 2.5 year old and a 12 month old so getting out and pleasure driving is not exactly high on the priority list right now. I probably put 500 miles on the car last year but hope to do more this year.
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6K per year over the past 10 years, without any breakdown or even a significant mechanical or electrical fault. I admit that I no longer take it on trips cross-state, because I'm past due for A-Significant-Failure. Makes a great grocery getter these days!
P.S. don't listen to Ken. We have the best govt and best roads here, Comrades!
P.S. don't listen to Ken. We have the best govt and best roads here, Comrades!
#36
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Don't have one yet but specifically searching for a 993 to use as a daily driver, 400 miles a week. First thing I will do is put snow tires on it.
On the other hand, I wouldn't buy a perfect 10k mile car to do this with either so I understand the mentality of keeping pristine, pristine.
On the other hand, I wouldn't buy a perfect 10k mile car to do this with either so I understand the mentality of keeping pristine, pristine.
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21 years ago, I used to use my first 911 (an 83SC) as a daily driver every day year round - including hauling kids, etc. After 7 years I moved to the 993 Targa, and it gradually went from daily driver to occasional daily driver, mostly due to friggn' traffic and the kids growing. Changed jobs that required a truck, so the 993 went to weekend driver. Changed jobs again, started to work from home, and the 993 was driven even less. I then sold the Targa after 11 years and bought the 993TT (4 years ago..) and continued the same pattern...
and then the values went up, up, up ...
and now drive it on nice days when I can get a longer drive out of the city, or occasionally a short drive during the week when I get the itch. The values definitely impacted my usage pattern, but it was already changing anyways ...
The 993TT definitely has become more of a special occasion car (and it is a special car!), but that is fine. In the city, the 993 is a sh**ty city car, it's too low, traffic requires lots of clutch work, and there is the constant worry about tailgaters and being cut off, nevermind shrinking parking stalls. I do not have that worry in my truck, so the 993 is used for open roads and good times, the truck is my beater.
I am doing about 2000 - 3000 miles/year now, with one or two longer trips that adds the majority of the miles. When I retire soon, that might go up, hopefully some longer road trips ....
Cheers,
Mike
and then the values went up, up, up ...
and now drive it on nice days when I can get a longer drive out of the city, or occasionally a short drive during the week when I get the itch. The values definitely impacted my usage pattern, but it was already changing anyways ...
The 993TT definitely has become more of a special occasion car (and it is a special car!), but that is fine. In the city, the 993 is a sh**ty city car, it's too low, traffic requires lots of clutch work, and there is the constant worry about tailgaters and being cut off, nevermind shrinking parking stalls. I do not have that worry in my truck, so the 993 is used for open roads and good times, the truck is my beater.
I am doing about 2000 - 3000 miles/year now, with one or two longer trips that adds the majority of the miles. When I retire soon, that might go up, hopefully some longer road trips ....
Cheers,
Mike
#38
I bought my 1996 C2 a few years ago and am putting about 8K miles/year (daily driver when salt is not on the road and any road trip I can dream up). Currently at 125K on the odo - and I don't plan to change this driving habit. As many have mentioned before, I bought high mileage so I wouldn't worry about it (too much).
And of course this is a killer track and autoX car too - well beyond my skill level without mods. The plan has been to drive, race, maintain and repair indefinitely.
And of course this is a killer track and autoX car too - well beyond my skill level without mods. The plan has been to drive, race, maintain and repair indefinitely.
#39
Hell No
mine will never be a garage trophy, as it was purchased as a young boy's dream car to be driven and enjoyed (it's not a painting, stamp, or a coin). it's not a special model, RS or GT, so although it has appreciated over the last few years, the mark up has not reached insane levels like the aforementioned. i bought the car for ME not the next owner.
#40
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OP, the day driving my P cars no longer becomes an event is the day they will go up for sale.
I've noticed you have posted this topic in two different forums.
Which model of P car do you own?
Quad called it.
Very strange first post.
So what's the deal?
No avatar, no signature, no location, no membership, never a post letting us know what you drive......
I think I know.
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I've noticed you have posted this topic in two different forums.
Which model of P car do you own?
Quad called it.
Very strange first post.
So what's the deal?
No avatar, no signature, no location, no membership, never a post letting us know what you drive......
I think I know.
.
#41
Burning Brakes
Mine has been going out less and less for daily drives, but I am still trying to get it out to the track when I can... I just feel more guilty now than before. I am also not progressing as a driver because I am not willing to push the car (or myself) to it's limits. I KNOW I would cry if I put my 993 in the dirt...
My wife and I go for drives on cool weekend mornings, the lack of air conditioning (been broken for 7+ years) requires temperatures below 75 degrees or we will take the Jetta.
My wife and I go for drives on cool weekend mornings, the lack of air conditioning (been broken for 7+ years) requires temperatures below 75 degrees or we will take the Jetta.
#43
With kids aged 5 and 9 the 993tt is great. They love being picked up in school every now and then in that car. And we take it out on the weekends. My wife loves driving it to.
#44
#45
Burning Brakes
Bought mine 6 years ago and it has been my daily driver from April - December ever since. I get out for a 3 day driving trip with my buddy who has an '86 cab and I go to 3 AX and one DE a year.
Still I only put 4-5,000 miles a year (I live close to work).
Through Rennlist I have found parts and guidance to tackle some simple DIY's. I enjoy planning and tinkering as much as driving.
Still I only put 4-5,000 miles a year (I live close to work).
Through Rennlist I have found parts and guidance to tackle some simple DIY's. I enjoy planning and tinkering as much as driving.