Porsche Classic offering new design 993 shock absorbers
06-01-2016, 08:28 AM
#17
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correct. def an improvement over the monroe's but no way its worth the money.
Pretty sure bilstein has been using this upside down setup for years. I think its for weight savings...not sure how though....Bill V wrote about it a while back.
Pretty sure bilstein has been using this upside down setup for years. I think its for weight savings...not sure how though....Bill V wrote about it a while back.
06-01-2016, 09:32 AM
#18
Yes all the 911 front Bilstein shocks thru '89 were the upside down design, the engineering reason to do this is to save unsprung weight.
The new shocks look to be Bilstein b6, my guess is that they updated the valving to a digressive design as has been used in the PSS series Bilsteins, They are not adjustable but that isn't at all important if the base valving is right.
The new shocks look to be Bilstein b6, my guess is that they updated the valving to a digressive design as has been used in the PSS series Bilsteins, They are not adjustable but that isn't at all important if the base valving is right.
06-01-2016, 11:38 AM
#19
Yes all the 911 front Bilstein shocks thru '89 were the upside down design, the engineering reason to do this is to save unsprung weight.
The new shocks look to be Bilstein b6, my guess is that they updated the valving to a digressive design as has been used in the PSS series Bilsteins, They are not adjustable but that isn't at all important if the base valving is right.
The new shocks look to be Bilstein b6, my guess is that they updated the valving to a digressive design as has been used in the PSS series Bilsteins, They are not adjustable but that isn't at all important if the base valving is right.
do you think i should try this? or the PSSs is the way to go?
06-01-2016, 11:47 AM
#20
Banned
Yes all the 911 front Bilstein shocks thru '89 were the upside down design, the engineering reason to do this is to save unsprung weight.
The new shocks look to be Bilstein b6, my guess is that they updated the valving to a digressive design as has been used in the PSS series Bilsteins, They are not adjustable but that isn't at all important if the base valving is right.
The new shocks look to be Bilstein b6, my guess is that they updated the valving to a digressive design as has been used in the PSS series Bilsteins, They are not adjustable but that isn't at all important if the base valving is right.
Hard to tell with the information available what the difference will be between the Porsche part and the Bilstein part. If Porsche handles this like the Classic Motor Oil good luck! Try calling Bilstein US, they may be able to get you more info.
06-01-2016, 01:28 PM
#22
Rennlist Member
I wonder if Porsche offer these monotube shocks for the 993 RS.
The original RS design is a double tube, non-rebuildable and non-revalveable design with a 72 mm long mounting shaft at the top to fit the RS monoball mount. The stock 993 has something like a 48 mm long shaft.
Last I looked, no Bilstein Porsche monotube shock has this long mounting shaft and having a monotube strut readily available that could be revalved would be handy for those with an RS or RS monoball mounts.
The original RS design is a double tube, non-rebuildable and non-revalveable design with a 72 mm long mounting shaft at the top to fit the RS monoball mount. The stock 993 has something like a 48 mm long shaft.
Last I looked, no Bilstein Porsche monotube shock has this long mounting shaft and having a monotube strut readily available that could be revalved would be handy for those with an RS or RS monoball mounts.
06-01-2016, 03:16 PM
#23
Banned
There are two sets, one for 993 and one for turbo/sports.
From the brochure "For more information on these and other Porsche Classic Genuine Parts, please visit our Porsche Classic website at www.porsche.com/classic or contact your Porsche Classic Partner and Porsche Centre. They also hold technical information for you, including installation instructions and details on any additional parts you might have to order." Hopefully for those interested they will actually have technical info and not more marketing stuff.
If you want to go more the RS route for the street I would just get PSS10's along with the RS carrier, mounts, etc.
From the brochure "For more information on these and other Porsche Classic Genuine Parts, please visit our Porsche Classic website at www.porsche.com/classic or contact your Porsche Classic Partner and Porsche Centre. They also hold technical information for you, including installation instructions and details on any additional parts you might have to order." Hopefully for those interested they will actually have technical info and not more marketing stuff.
If you want to go more the RS route for the street I would just get PSS10's along with the RS carrier, mounts, etc.
06-01-2016, 03:26 PM
#24
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There are two sets, one for 993 and one for turbo/sports.
From the brochure "For more information on these and other Porsche Classic Genuine Parts, please visit our Porsche Classic website at www.porsche.com/classic or contact your Porsche Classic Partner and Porsche Centre. They also hold technical information for you, including installation instructions and details on any additional parts you might have to order." Hopefully for those interested they will actually have technical info and not more marketing stuff.
If you want to go more the RS route for the street I would just get PSS10's along with the RS carrier, mounts, etc.
From the brochure "For more information on these and other Porsche Classic Genuine Parts, please visit our Porsche Classic website at www.porsche.com/classic or contact your Porsche Classic Partner and Porsche Centre. They also hold technical information for you, including installation instructions and details on any additional parts you might have to order." Hopefully for those interested they will actually have technical info and not more marketing stuff.
If you want to go more the RS route for the street I would just get PSS10's along with the RS carrier, mounts, etc.
06-01-2016, 07:59 PM
#27
Banned
I wish it was a commercial part. I knew getting into this thanks to ToSi and the Jackal that i needed a custom nut, unfortunately the mechanic waited until he needed the part before looking for a machinist to do the work...friggin expensive and would not give us a file for future use.
06-17-2016, 05:44 PM
#29
So much negativity on here.....why not just be glad that Porsche chooses to implement further developments on a 20 year old model? If you see fit to make better judgement by choosing aftermarket then by all means do so, just don't flame Porsche for offering a choice.
06-17-2016, 05:50 PM
#30
VW, er, Porsche has no interest in developing things for the air cooled market. They have an interest in making money.
Who cares if they offer a choice, if it's a sub-par choice.
It's a car company, not a cult. Porsche makes lots of $hit products that the aftermarket does far better, and usually for less money. These crap shocks are one of them. The Monroes that came new on the car from the factory were crap as well.