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Old 07-25-2016, 02:23 PM
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Default Preventative Maintenance while Door Panel is Off?

I'm at the home stretch ---- ripped out and replaced all the carpeting, upper/lower dash, rear interior panels, etc.....

Now I've taken apart the door panels to replace them with leather ones ---- what should I do in terms of preventative maintenance while I'm in here?

The original sound deadening from the factory is a little bit curled up but it hasn't given up yet --- it is still stuck to the door inner skins in a strong way....
Under the previous owner's care, I note that the vapor barrier is missing, so I'll go replace that.
Anything else I should do while I'm in here without creating a huge make-work project? Lubrication?

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1. Condition of the insulation on outside panel of door
2. Check the metal channel that holds the glass for that.
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I would go ahead and replace the sound deadening with dynamat or equivalent before you put the new vapor barrier on. It's very easy to do, and with your recent experience removing glue, you should have no problem!

Another thought would be to lubricate the window regulator, especially where it contacts the motor/gear. While I haven't done this on the 993 yet, I have done this on other cars and noticed the recently lubricated windows go up and down significantly faster than the others.

Whatever you do, don't take to long to do it. I want to see the finished product!
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Hah, Thanks guys.

I'll get straight to it. I HATE the interior glue that holds down the carpet. It sucks big time. It is so absurdly sticky.

There are threads on rennlist who claims that interior carpet removal and installation is a project that can take a weekend or two, perhaps with a helper.

I don't know what superhumans are doing this work but my opinion is that this time estimate is completely false. Now, I work super slowly and methodically (each new piece of carpet takes make at least 2 hours to glue trim and glue down --- stretch, tugging, carefully fitting ....) I have about 120 hours into this project over more than a month at this point.

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How is the rubber gasket on your exterior door handles? If it's cracking or showing its age, now would be the time to remove the door handles and switch them out.
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your door guts look rather clean. If you haven't modified the check strap reducing forces on the strap this is a good time to do this to save it's A
pillar hinge point. All other looks good. A little silicone lube on the window lift joints and on the soft tracks the glass runs up and down in.
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It was suggested to me just the other day that to remove the old glue, it comes off quite well if you place dry ice on it. It hardens it to the point it becomes brittle and is easily broken off.

I have not tried it, so cannot speak from personal experience.

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Hah, Thanks guys.

I'll get straight to it. I HATE the interior glue that holds down the carpet. It sucks big time. It is so absurdly sticky.

There are threads on rennlist who claims that interior carpet removal and installation is a project that can take a weekend or two, perhaps with a helper.

I don't know what superhumans are doing this work but my opinion is that this time estimate is completely false. Now, I work super slowly and methodically (each new piece of carpet takes make at least 2 hours to glue trim and glue down --- stretch, tugging, carefully fitting ....) I have about 120 hours into this project over more than a month at this point.

:-)
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Originally Posted by Cemoto
It was suggested to me just the other day that to remove the old glue, it comes off quite well if you place dry ice on it. It hardens it to the point it becomes brittle and is easily broken off.

I have not tried it, so cannot speak from personal experience.

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I find that hard to believe..... If you freeze the glue with dry ice, then you're probably freezing the surrounding carpet / carpet padding / etc etc .... I can imagine tons of collateral damage then breaking the whole frozen lump off.
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Originally Posted by Paul M
How is the rubber gasket on your exterior door handles? If it's cracking or showing its age, now would be the time to remove the door handles and switch them out.
Originally Posted by pp000830
your door guts look rather clean. If you haven't modified the check strap reducing forces on the strap this is a good time to do this to save it's A
pillar hinge point. All other looks good. A little silicone lube on the window lift joints and on the soft tracks the glass runs up and down in.

Thanks guys. Getting to it. Door guts are clean prob because the car spent its entire life in Northern California and then Arizona.
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Originally Posted by KMASS993
2. Check the metal channel that holds the glass for that.
+1 I had window come off that rail...turned out to be a major pita.

Basically water drips down the glass (rain, car wash) right into that metal holder and rusts in there. See if you can move the glass up out of it...slowly. If it's tight in there might as well leave it alone and just add some grease to the regulator parts (there are a few plastic wheels).
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If your door handle triggers don't pull smoothly and easily, it's worth taking the door handles off and cleaning/lubricating the plungers. On my high-mileage car, it made a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by Jlaa
I find that hard to believe..... If you freeze the glue with dry ice, then you're probably freezing the surrounding carpet / carpet padding / etc etc .... I can imagine tons of collateral damage then breaking the whole frozen lump off.
The advice came from someone who builds race cars and wants all the glue out of the tub.

My apologies, I was interpreting you wanted to remove the glue. My reading comprehension decreases somewhat after being outside on these bloody hot days!

Regards,

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Originally Posted by NP993
If your door handle triggers don't pull smoothly and easily, it's worth taking the door handles off and cleaning/lubricating the plungers. On my high-mileage car, it made a huge difference.
This.

And also +1 to checking the rails at the bottom of the windows. If they are starting to corrode, eventually they can swell so much that they will not fit through the window slot at the top of the door, ie it will be very difficult to remove them. Best to nip this in the bud.
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Originally Posted by Cemoto
The advice came from someone who builds race cars and wants all the glue out of the tub.

My apologies, I was interpreting you wanted to remove the glue. My reading comprehension decreases somewhat after being outside on these bloody hot days!

Regards,

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Theaters use what amounts to a can of dustoff upside down to freeze chewing gum stuck to carpet and upholstery so it simply cracks off, old trick works great!
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My previous posting seems to have disappeared. Consider a flush buckle nut used to clasp belt leather to a belt buckle with a machine screw. Provides a threaded flush nut with a flange for the back. easily purchased in different diameters at leather or craft shops, or even eBay. Has the advantage of a blind rivet and is serviceable.


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