Michelin tires question
#16
Rennlist Member
I'm also in Ohio, put Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ all-seasons on my C4
I went wider on the front, 225/45-17F. standard on the rear 255/40-17R.
Certainly not track tires, but I like 'em fine.
I went wider on the front, 225/45-17F. standard on the rear 255/40-17R.
Certainly not track tires, but I like 'em fine.
#18
Three Wheelin'
I'm running the A/S 3+ as well and like them quite a bit. They feel like a summer tire from a couple generations back. They seem like they have about as much grip as the S-02 I ran in the early 2000s. They can't keep up with a modern summer tire, but they are no slouch and you can have a lot of fun on them. The nice thing about having a little less grip is you can explore chassis balance at lower speeds.
I have driven them in ice and snow, in slush, in below freezing dry roads and on hot roads in the summer. They've done great in all conditions. They have a surprising amount of grip on snow and ice but I've only used them around town at speeds under 40mph in those conditions.
On sub-freezing dry roads they feel like they have full grip, basically feel the same from 0 degrees up to 90 if the road is dry. Wet traction is just a smidge off of dry, lots of grip.
Not a track tire, not an ultimate grip tire, but a very fun tire for anyone who drives hard in a variety of conditions and wants the tire to last longer than a year or two.
I have driven them in ice and snow, in slush, in below freezing dry roads and on hot roads in the summer. They've done great in all conditions. They have a surprising amount of grip on snow and ice but I've only used them around town at speeds under 40mph in those conditions.
On sub-freezing dry roads they feel like they have full grip, basically feel the same from 0 degrees up to 90 if the road is dry. Wet traction is just a smidge off of dry, lots of grip.
Not a track tire, not an ultimate grip tire, but a very fun tire for anyone who drives hard in a variety of conditions and wants the tire to last longer than a year or two.
#19
Banned
For those of you who do not like Tire Rack reviews, here is a more in depth review of the Conti Sport.
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...act-Sport.aspx
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...act-Sport.aspx
#20
Rennlist Member
My 2 cents, on Michelins for a DD:
If all three sets are available in the sizes you want, then I would get the cheapest ones.
If money is not important, then I would get the lightest ones.
And If you don't care about money or weight, then the most recent ones, which means:
1-PS4s
2-PSS
3-PS2s
But, if I still lived in the USA, I would save even more money and get Continentals DW (if still available) over all of them (same weight/thread design almost identical/and same feel as the PS2s).
I had to replace a brand new set of DW with PS2s upon moving to France (flat spotting during shipping in container due to them being under inflated by my dumb ***). I cannot believe how close the DW were to the PS2. At the time, I could not get the Continentals DW, nor the Super Sports in Europe, and the PS4 was not out yet, so I had to buy PS2s.
If all three sets are available in the sizes you want, then I would get the cheapest ones.
If money is not important, then I would get the lightest ones.
And If you don't care about money or weight, then the most recent ones, which means:
1-PS4s
2-PSS
3-PS2s
But, if I still lived in the USA, I would save even more money and get Continentals DW (if still available) over all of them (same weight/thread design almost identical/and same feel as the PS2s).
I had to replace a brand new set of DW with PS2s upon moving to France (flat spotting during shipping in container due to them being under inflated by my dumb ***). I cannot believe how close the DW were to the PS2. At the time, I could not get the Continentals DW, nor the Super Sports in Europe, and the PS4 was not out yet, so I had to buy PS2s.
#21
Rennlist Member
See prior post above - I chose the same - a much improved Conti clearly chasing/aping the outgoing Michelin SS at a great price. I just got a set, net of VISA card rebate, at under $650 in 235/265. They have addressed the soft sidewalls in the DW (which were very fine as a comfortable performance tire).
I will be mounting them up soon, based on the early reviews, expect them to me very similar to the PSS (excellent).
Cheers
Matt
I will be mounting them up soon, based on the early reviews, expect them to me very similar to the PSS (excellent).
Cheers
Matt
#22
Rennlist Member
I have played with all kinds of tires but none seem to be as great all around as the PS2. The best balance of noise, ride quality and grip. My car never sees rain so no need for AS.
On the track I prefer the NT01's.
On the track I prefer the NT01's.
#23
#24
Three Wheelin'
Based on what I'm reading about the new Continental ExtremeContact, I wonder where it should slot. Seems like a tie with #2 for PSS but its cheaper and some reviewers make it sound like it may have some advantages in terms of smoothness and its also a couple pounds lighter in our sizes. So maybe it should be in #2 with PSS bumped down to #3.
#26
Three Wheelin'
Good point, that could be a tie-breaker in favor of the Continental. Also I would guess that the Continental, being a newer tire, has newer technology as well. Doesn't hurt to buy the latest to market.
Looking forward to hearing more about the PS4S once it comes in our sizes.
Looking forward to hearing more about the PS4S once it comes in our sizes.
#27
Rennlist Member
I never had great tread wear on the continental tires. They rode well though.
I expect the tire rack to start slashing prices on the PSS as overlapping sizes become available in the PS4S. Maybe a good time to score a set for my daily driver.
I expect the tire rack to start slashing prices on the PSS as overlapping sizes become available in the PS4S. Maybe a good time to score a set for my daily driver.
#30
I don't know why PS2's get mentioned in these conversations anymore. They must be what, 15 year old tech? When the PSS came out they reviewed favorably in every area, and they're not exactly new tech either at this point.
If sizing is a limitation then look at other brands (Yokohama, Bridgestone, Dunlop, etc.)
If sizing is a limitation then look at other brands (Yokohama, Bridgestone, Dunlop, etc.)