Factory Turbo Removal Proceedure - Page 2

ruffy · 12-12-2005, 04:09 AM

kevin

yes hand rotation of the assbly with lube is critical (from what ive read at least

)... in fact i've been so paranoid about contamination and debris that ive insisted on making an oil change and priming the lines till fresh oil comes through...

just fyi, when i removed the inlet side, there was ton of oil probably about 2 cups of oil (goes to show how wrong my local mechanic was with his diagnosis )... fortunately, the turbine shaft was ok, only the seals were fried... its been a nightmare so far, and i really want to get the best life out of these turbos...

i was just wondering if you could share your thoughts about running the new seals in...
my guess is that the overall success is still limited to the operator's ability to seat the new seals properly...

So far, my understanding is to allow the car to idle to get the temps up to normal operating levels... also for the oil to cycle through the new turbos..
then the car needs to be drive gently for about 120 or so miles before progressively bringing them to full boost.

please correct me or add to this, just so that i can sleep in peace

also... thats another million thanks that i owe you..lol

Kevin · 12-12-2005, 04:51 AM

For seating the new seals you need to stay off the boost for 50 miles.. You want heat cycles, you don't want hot shutdowns. Stop and go traffic is good, provided you can make stops to shut the car off to let the engine and turbochargers cool. Prior to all of this you need to read what I said about hanging pop cans from the oil supply lines. New fresh oil needs to be on tap prior to tightening the supply lines. Prime for oil pressure, prior to starting the engine. Warm the engine up and check for leaks. Make sure that you do not overfil the car. I'd run enough oil to get you up to the lower mark on the dipstick and watch the level as you get some heat into the system. And of course install Porsche oil filters..

ruffy · 12-16-2005, 02:52 AM

Thank you Kevin!
it is done!...

couldn't have done it without your help.
thank you once again.

Sincerely,
Chunn

Porssche4563 · 07-23-2006, 12:23 PM

Hello Everyone,

I am new to Rennlist as I just purchased my 993 TT (1997) 17k miles. I have had it for 3 weeks and the car is in super shape with all yearly services performed. I joined your forum as I am having to learn about these years as my history with these cars goes back to the 80's. With this said, I have had the smoking issues (which an oil change was done before I purchased the car). Newly discovered are puddles exactly as stated above by "jasper996" dated 4-23-05. I saw what Kevin replied but was wondering if anyone ever heard back from Jasper996 as to what fixed his car??? Lastly, the air filter needs to be changed...how do you get access...or what has to be removed to get access??

Enjoyed the forum thusfar, learned a lot...

Everyone keep up the great work!!!

David

Kevin · 07-23-2006, 02:42 PM

Welcome to Rennlist...

You are going to have to jack your car up and see which oil filter was installed on your engine.. I bet you it was a Mahle filter.. Do not put any miles on your car.. Go to the Porsche dealer and purchase new filters, including your air filter and change them..

To get access to your filter, you have to remove your intercooler. MAKE SURE that you put your cand on the backside of the front two bolts (fan housing). There is square nuts that will drop down into the abyss.. And you will be fishing them out with a magnet.

Porssche4563 · 07-23-2006, 07:08 PM

Kevin,

Thank you for the information...I will get the filters checked and changed before next drive. Did you ever here back from jasper993 on his leaking driver's side turbo as to what he found per your suggestions??

Again, thanks for the info...

David

Porssche4563 · 07-26-2006, 11:27 PM

Kevin,

Did you ever hear back from the guy with the leaking turbo as indicated above??

Thanks for your help.

David

Kevin · 07-27-2006, 12:14 AM

PM Jasper.. It's been awhile ago.. I believe that it was just his oil filter and over-filled.

phelix · 09-24-2006, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin

2ea Small Sealing Rings 944 111 205 01
2ea Large Sealing Rings 965 111 205 00
2ea Sump to Turbo Orings 999 701 598 40
2ea Sump Drain Orings 900 123 106 30
14ea Studs 999 061 099 00
4ea Allen Bolts for Sumps 900 067 271 02
2ea Heat Shield 993 123 113 51
14ea Nuts 999 084 627 02

Aren't the heat shields different left and right?

12-12-2005, 04:51 AM	#17
Kevin Addict Rennlist Member Rennlist Site Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northwest Posts: 5,257	For seating the new seals you need to stay off the boost for 50 miles.. You want heat cycles, you don't want hot shutdowns. Stop and go traffic is good, provided you can make stops to shut the car off to let the engine and turbochargers cool. Prior to all of this you need to read what I said about hanging pop cans from the oil supply lines. New fresh oil needs to be on tap prior to tightening the supply lines. Prime for oil pressure, prior to starting the engine. Warm the engine up and check for leaks. Make sure that you do not overfil the car. I'd run enough oil to get you up to the lower mark on the dipstick and watch the level as you get some heat into the system. And of course install Porsche oil filters.. __________________ www.Ultimatemotorwerks.com kevin@ultimatemotorwerks.com kmatwichuk@att.net 360.805-9066

07-23-2006, 12:23 PM	#19
Porssche4563 User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 21	Leaking Driver's side Turbo... Hello Everyone, I am new to Rennlist as I just purchased my 993 TT (1997) 17k miles. I have had it for 3 weeks and the car is in super shape with all yearly services performed. I joined your forum as I am having to learn about these years as my history with these cars goes back to the 80's. With this said, I have had the smoking issues (which an oil change was done before I purchased the car). Newly discovered are puddles exactly as stated above by "jasper996" dated 4-23-05. I saw what Kevin replied but was wondering if anyone ever heard back from Jasper996 as to what fixed his car??? Lastly, the air filter needs to be changed...how do you get access...or what has to be removed to get access?? Enjoyed the forum thusfar, learned a lot... Everyone keep up the great work!!! David

07-23-2006, 02:42 PM	#20
Kevin Addict Rennlist Member Rennlist Site Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northwest Posts: 5,257	Welcome to Rennlist... You are going to have to jack your car up and see which oil filter was installed on your engine.. I bet you it was a Mahle filter.. Do not put any miles on your car.. Go to the Porsche dealer and purchase new filters, including your air filter and change them.. To get access to your filter, you have to remove your intercooler. MAKE SURE that you put your cand on the backside of the front two bolts (fan housing). There is square nuts that will drop down into the abyss.. And you will be fishing them out with a magnet. __________________ www.Ultimatemotorwerks.com kevin@ultimatemotorwerks.com kmatwichuk@att.net 360.805-9066

07-27-2006, 12:14 AM	#23
Kevin Addict Rennlist Member Rennlist Site Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northwest Posts: 5,257	PM Jasper.. It's been awhile ago.. I believe that it was just his oil filter and over-filled. __________________ www.Ultimatemotorwerks.com kevin@ultimatemotorwerks.com kmatwichuk@att.net 360.805-9066

12-12-2005, 04:09 AM	#16
ruffy Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 820	kevin yes hand rotation of the assbly with lube is critical (from what ive read at least )... in fact i've been so paranoid about contamination and debris that ive insisted on making an oil change and priming the lines till fresh oil comes through... just fyi, when i removed the inlet side, there was ton of oil probably about 2 cups of oil (goes to show how wrong my local mechanic was with his diagnosis )... fortunately, the turbine shaft was ok, only the seals were fried... its been a nightmare so far, and i really want to get the best life out of these turbos... i was just wondering if you could share your thoughts about running the new seals in... my guess is that the overall success is still limited to the operator's ability to seat the new seals properly... So far, my understanding is to allow the car to idle to get the temps up to normal operating levels... also for the oil to cycle through the new turbos.. then the car needs to be drive gently for about 120 or so miles before progressively bringing them to full boost. please correct me or add to this, just so that i can sleep in peace also... thats another million thanks that i owe you..lol

12-16-2005, 02:52 AM	#18
ruffy Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 820	Thank you Kevin! it is done!... couldn't have done it without your help. thank you once again. Sincerely, Chunn

07-23-2006, 07:08 PM	#21
Porssche4563 User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 21	Kevin, Thank you for the information...I will get the filters checked and changed before next drive. Did you ever here back from jasper993 on his leaking driver's side turbo as to what he found per your suggestions?? Again, thanks for the info... David

07-26-2006, 11:27 PM	#22
Porssche4563 User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 21	Kevin, Did you ever hear back from the guy with the leaking turbo as indicated above?? Thanks for your help. David