Rennlist Race Car Ad 1687 - Page 2

Tim Wasmer · 02-07-2010, 04:42 PM

Can't see the picture.....must need new glasses!

papadukes8 · 02-07-2010, 05:39 PM

Talk about bang for your buck...

darrendeguire · 02-07-2010, 06:28 PM

hmmm...I could have some fun beating up the GT cars with that one.

pstoppani · 02-07-2010, 06:55 PM

Probably not street-legal due to lack of cats. So, for "off road use only"

Plus, with a full cage, I wouldn't drive it on the street anyway, not without a helmet.

JJayB · 02-08-2010, 10:55 PM

Leak down test and Rockwell test on heads will tell if it's a deal or no deal.

DM993tt · 02-09-2010, 08:56 AM

even if it needs a refresh say 14G, there seem to be enough goodies in there to make it valuable. Only problem is if you wanted to go racing you'd likely be be classed in GT1R in PCA and still not be very competitive. sigh.

darrendeguire · 02-09-2010, 10:50 AM

I think your right GT1R would not be good. I'm ready for a change though. Either I spend some money on new motons and erp bits and get the turbo's rebuilt or sell it. My car is very competitive against the top J class players but at Sebring this past weekend I can not keep up with Poeltl in I class. He is 2 seconds a lap faster. He can out pull me down the front and back straights. I think my quickest lap was around 2.235 and he was at 2.215. Amazing he can do that in 3.6l 996.

Spartan · 02-09-2010, 11:43 AM

Not street legal?! If it has a vin its street legal

WHB Porsche · 02-09-2010, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJayB

Leak down test and Rockwell test on heads will tell if it's a deal or no deal.

Jim - what's a Rockwell test?

Spartan · 02-09-2010, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHB Porsche

Jim - what's a Rockwell test?

metallurgy stuff, I think it has to do with hardness

You should do it everytime you change your oil

wagongotya · 02-09-2010, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan

metallurgy stuff, I think it has to do with hardness

You should do it everytime you change your oil

Unless you change your oil every other weekend ;-)

DM993tt · 02-09-2010, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrendeguire

I think your right GT1R would not be good. I'm ready for a change though. Either I spend some money on new motons and erp bits and get the turbo's rebuilt or sell it. My car is very competitive against the top J class players but at Sebring this past weekend I can not keep up with Poeltl in I class. He is 2 seconds a lap faster. He can out pull me down the front and back straights. I think my quickest lap was around 2.235 and he was at 2.215. Amazing he can do that in 3.6l 996.

In J you are classed with 996tt's correct? Nobody notices if you slip an S ecu in there, erp monoballs, evo uprights and, and stiff sways, and heavy springs until you start winning everything... right??

watch the end here....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6798000231261#

I just went old school, bought a 1969 911 race car w a 2.2l motor that I am going to vintage race. SLOW little momentum car with cheap consumables. Good cheap competitive racing.

Making a 993tt a competitive racer is a difficult proposition in PCA particularly in any kind of stock class.

JJayB · 02-09-2010, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHB Porsche

Jim - what's a Rockwell test?

With only air cooling the heads go though a heat cycle, more boost more heat. After a time the metal starts to fatigue and get soft and looses its sealing ability.
A rockwell test will confirm the hardness of the heads.
FWIW, the factory race cars in the mid 90's would discard the heads after 40 hours due to sealing issues.
PCA isn't the only place to run a turbo, NASA and SCCA offer some nice competition.

darrendeguire · 02-09-2010, 08:51 PM

The 993 turbo just does just fine in J class, although it is toward the bottom of the ranking of cars in power to weight. The 996 turbo is in the class as well but its rare you see one racing. Same with my car. The class is mostly GT3's. It's all up to the drivers of course. Most races I go to you will see a couple of top J class drivers and then the others who are 3 to 6 seconds a lap slower. Same in every class really. That is true re no one checking until you win everything. Kind of defeats the purpose in PCA racing though. You can tell who the cheaters are... when they consistently miss corners but yet out pull you down the straight you know. Stock by the way is such a misnomer in PCA. My car is far from stock yet is within the rules. What is stock is the motor, turbo's and ecu. Anyway, its all in good fun but like most of us I'm always thinking of something different.

canysmc · 02-09-2010, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DM993tt

watch the end here....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6798000231261#

777

02-07-2010, 04:42 PM	#16
Tim Wasmer Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 1,886	Can't see the picture.....must need new glasses! __________________ Tim in Denver I have no PCar right now

02-07-2010, 05:39 PM	#17
papadukes8 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 245	Talk about bang for your buck... __________________ 89 911 Targa (4 Sale) (http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...targa-24k.html) 96 993 TT SecondGear Performance 294 N 1st St. Stroudsburg PA 18360

02-07-2010, 06:28 PM	#18
darrendeguire Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lake Mary, FL - Lakewood, IL Posts: 219	hmmm...I could have some fun beating up the GT cars with that one. __________________ 96 TT Guards Red. #85 - Stock J Class Racer 04 745i Sport & 03 X5 3.0 Previous PCars 01 GT3 Cup #85 96 993 Cabriolet Arena Red 06 DeRosa King X-Light - Record 10 81 DeRosa - Super Record

02-07-2010, 06:55 PM	#19
pstoppani Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 1,057	Probably not street-legal due to lack of cats. So, for "off road use only" Plus, with a full cage, I wouldn't drive it on the street anyway, not without a helmet. __________________ Pete \| 97 Turbo (UMW Track Hound)

02-08-2010, 10:55 PM	#20
JJayB Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orange Park Acres, CA Posts: 918	Leak down test and Rockwell test on heads will tell if it's a deal or no deal. __________________ Jimmy 993tt ANDIAL 3.8 twin plug (sold) 08' CLK 63 Black

02-09-2010, 08:56 AM	#21
DM993tt Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 733	even if it needs a refresh say 14G, there seem to be enough goodies in there to make it valuable. Only problem is if you wanted to go racing you'd likely be be classed in GT1R in PCA and still not be very competitive. sigh. __________________ Dave M 96 993Turbo http://www.vimeo.com/2625457

02-09-2010, 10:50 AM	#22
darrendeguire Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lake Mary, FL - Lakewood, IL Posts: 219	I think your right GT1R would not be good. I'm ready for a change though. Either I spend some money on new motons and erp bits and get the turbo's rebuilt or sell it. My car is very competitive against the top J class players but at Sebring this past weekend I can not keep up with Poeltl in I class. He is 2 seconds a lap faster. He can out pull me down the front and back straights. I think my quickest lap was around 2.235 and he was at 2.215. Amazing he can do that in 3.6l 996. __________________ 96 TT Guards Red. #85 - Stock J Class Racer 04 745i Sport & 03 X5 3.0 Previous PCars 01 GT3 Cup #85 96 993 Cabriolet Arena Red 06 DeRosa King X-Light - Record 10 81 DeRosa - Super Record

02-09-2010, 11:43 AM	#23
Spartan Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 864	Not street legal?! If it has a vin its street legal __________________ 1997 993tt: 2WD, Protomotive, Moton, ERP, Guard, etc Nogaro GT2 conversion Kelly Moss sponsored DE champion FS: Brand new rear lexan window. Sheilds brand all options pm if interested!

02-09-2010, 08:51 PM	#29
darrendeguire Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lake Mary, FL - Lakewood, IL Posts: 219	The 993 turbo just does just fine in J class, although it is toward the bottom of the ranking of cars in power to weight. The 996 turbo is in the class as well but its rare you see one racing. Same with my car. The class is mostly GT3's. It's all up to the drivers of course. Most races I go to you will see a couple of top J class drivers and then the others who are 3 to 6 seconds a lap slower. Same in every class really. That is true re no one checking until you win everything. Kind of defeats the purpose in PCA racing though. You can tell who the cheaters are... when they consistently miss corners but yet out pull you down the straight you know. Stock by the way is such a misnomer in PCA. My car is far from stock yet is within the rules. What is stock is the motor, turbo's and ecu. Anyway, its all in good fun but like most of us I'm always thinking of something different. __________________ 96 TT Guards Red. #85 - Stock J Class Racer 04 745i Sport & 03 X5 3.0 Previous PCars 01 GT3 Cup #85 96 993 Cabriolet Arena Red 06 DeRosa King X-Light - Record 10 81 DeRosa - Super Record