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Old 09-09-2019, 10:07 PM
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Hi All - just had a great weekend at the track, car ran great for three days, no issues at all. After my last session, the car sat as I packed up the SUV, and hooked up the trailer. When I went to start the car to load it, it would not start. Cranked great, just would not catch.

When I got home about 3 hours later, I tried to start it before I pushed it off the trailer and it started right up, but made almost a quacking noise for a second. When I shut it down, it made the same noise again. I started it and shut it down one more time, and it made the noise again.

A month ago, I was at another event, and the same thing happened. At the time I was also working on the AOS, and I thought one of the vacuum lines was loose, once I secured it better, it started right up. But now that the no start has happened again, I wonder if the AOS had nothing to do with it.

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99 Coupe - Engine is stock.
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Sounds like this?
Old 09-10-2019, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Kris Murphy
Hi All - just had a great weekend at the track, car ran great for three days, no issues at all. After my last session, the car sat as I packed up the SUV, and hooked up the trailer. When I went to start the car to load it, it would not start. Cranked great, just would not catch.

When I got home about 3 hours later, I tried to start it before I pushed it off the trailer and it started right up, but made almost a quacking noise for a second. When I shut it down, it made the same noise again. I started it and shut it down one more time, and it made the noise again.

A month ago, I was at another event, and the same thing happened. At the time I was also working on the AOS, and I thought one of the vacuum lines was loose, once I secured it better, it started right up. But now that the no start has happened again, I wonder if the AOS had nothing to do with it.

Thoughts?

99 Coupe - Engine is stock.
Sounds like the starter solenoid is basically dead.

I'm starting to get that starter screech that the guy above me posted. Only happens occasionally, so a new starter is on my list of things to do soon.
Old 09-10-2019, 01:54 PM
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My go-to for any no-start issue is to first unplug the MAFS, then try to start it.

Based on what you described, I have had issues like you described when I had either a major vacuum leak or the idle air control valve was stuck.
Old 09-10-2019, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
Does not sound like that. Sounds like a quack. May even be coming from the front of the car.
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Any chance of getting a video or audio recording of the noise?
Old 09-12-2019, 06:15 PM
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Did you look for a duck in the frunk?
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Maybe it's trying to tell you it wants a Ducktail.
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuda911
Did you look for a duck in the frunk?
I knew I forgot to check something. Will grab some video of it this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Kris Murphy
I knew I forgot to check something. Will grab some video of it this weekend.
I second this, most likely a duck could also have been sucked into one of the air intakes on the bumper. if it sounds like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
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Originally Posted by Kris Murphy
I knew I forgot to check something. Will grab some video of it this weekend.
I've never had a duck in the frunk, but I have had a stuck cat in the back. She was sitting on the spare tire as we road to the store. She howled all the way there and I thought we were having some kind of weird engine trouble. Got out and look underneath and there she was looking all traumatized. haha
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Next time it quacks open the fuel door and put your finger over the hole in the vent grommet to see if that stops it.
If so it is either the purge valve at the throttle or the vent valve at the filler neck. My bet is purge valve.
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You guys crack me up... An easy one is have you tried taking the belt off and starting? Something like a stuck pulley comes to mind with rubbing noises.
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Originally Posted by fpb111
Next time it quacks open the fuel door and put your finger over the hole in the vent grommet to see if that stops it.
If so it is either the purge valve at the throttle or the vent valve at the filler neck. My bet is purge valve.
Of course I tried to reproduce and it wouldn't. Would either of these two cause the non-start?
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The purge valve sticking open would make hot starts hard. IE after refueling. Cold start not so much. Search the forum for purge valve or no hot start threads.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...stem-woes.html


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