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Old 05-09-2022, 10:45 AM
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I have a minor leak from the rear main seal the dealership is addressing. However they are telling me they will drop the transmission to do this. I know typically the engine is dropped to replace the seal.
Is dropping the transmission an alternative method or are these guys clueless?
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If you have a 6 speed, you need to remove only the transmission, PP, clutch, and flywheel to get at the RMS. If you have a Tiptronic, you need to drop the engine and gearbox together, then separate the two on the ground.
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Yes like @yelcab said, if you have a 6speed... the whole engine doesn't need to be dropped. My car was done this way as well.
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Originally Posted by RDL
All,
I have a minor leak from the rear main seal the dealership is addressing. However they are telling me they will drop the transmission to do this. I know typically the engine is dropped to replace the seal.
Is dropping the transmission an alternative method or are these guys clueless?
Thanks
Hopefully Skip sees this and he can comment as to most recent procedures.

But let me say this, a minor rms leak is minor and in many cases it will slow or even stop with you driving the car more frequently. Doesn't mean that you don't want to replace it with the latest and greatest seal, but you may want to consider grouping the rms replacement with something more robust if you haven't already replaced important items.

I just went thru the same exercise with my indy dropping my engine, replacing the rms, LNE Ims retro with a new one, porsche motorsports aos with the uaos, new oil cooler, and a thorough analysis of the engine and bits. It's also a good time to replace spark plugs, coils, fuel injects etc. Also good time to view the clutch and flywheel and if needed, replace them.

Yeah, I know, it's all expensive, but the cost of dropping an engine or just a transmission can be used to your advantage by not incurring that cost again over the next decade or two.

I know it's probably more info than you are looking for, but figured it may help as you think through other part replacements that may be needed and ways to contain costs.

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Thank you all for the info. The car is a 99 with 6 speed manual. All of the major service items were done with 60k on the clock. I'm now turning 90k and the leak started about 5,000 miles ago. Since it is my daily driver, I don't think it will get any better.
Again, thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by RDL
Thank you all for the info. The car is a 99 with 6 speed manual. All of the major service items were done with 60k on the clock. I'm now turning 90k and the leak started about 5,000 miles ago. Since it is my daily driver, I don't think it will get any better.
Again, thanks for the info.
Only thing is are you certain it is leaking from the RMS? I recently had major work done on my 996.2. Here are some pics of the rear of the engine before the work was done. I could see oil on the bell housing bottom but not enough to actually form a puddle before the engine was dropped. I'm unable to say whether the minor leak was from the RMS, or the IMSB in the next pic.


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Good question.
I had the original IMSB replaced 30k miles ago with an LN Engineering dual row bearing. I don't recall seeing too many instances of these leaking, I also don't believe these have a seal.
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Originally Posted by RDL;[url=tel:18133376
18133376[/url]]Thank you all for the info. The car is a 99 with 6 speed manual. All of the major service items were done with 60k on the clock. I'm now turning 90k and the leak started about 5,000 miles ago. Since it is my daily driver, I don't think it will get any better.
Again, thanks for the info.
Curious, what did you do at 60k miles?
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IMSB,Clutch,AOS, Plugs, Plug tube seals, Water pump, Spin on oil filter adapter.
Car had no records when I bought it.

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Originally Posted by Lady Silver
Only thing is are you certain it is leaking from the RMS? I recently had major work done on my 996.2. Here are some pics of the rear of the engine before the work was done. I could see oil on the bell housing bottom but not enough to actually form a puddle before the engine was dropped. I'm unable to say whether the minor leak was from the RMS, or the IMSB in the next pic.

Could also leak from 2 x the half case bolts which are within housing.
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Originally Posted by RDL;[url=tel:18134531
18134531[/url]]IMSB,Clutch,AOS, Plugs, Plug tube seals, Water pump, Spin on oil filter adapter.
Car had no records when I bought it.
So no RMS at that time?
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Sorry, yes the RMS was done at the same time.
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A good tech can drop the gearbox in 4 hours. You can conceivably get it done in one day.

(An excellent, highly experienced tech can drop the gearbox in 2 hours. Someone here claimed to have it done in 45 minutes)
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Originally Posted by yelcab
A good tech can drop the gearbox in 4 hours. You can conceivably get it done in one day.

(An excellent, highly experienced tech can drop the gearbox in 2 hours. Someone here claimed to have it done in 45 minutes)
Having removed my 996 gearbox recently, i'd be frustrated if a 'good tech' took 4 hours to just remove the 'box.. I've never done one before and took me a lot less time and i'm not even a mech by trade.
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Originally Posted by rich_r
Having removed my 996 gearbox recently, i'd be frustrated if a 'good tech' took 4 hours to just remove the 'box.. I've never done one before and took me a lot less time and i'm not even a mech by trade.
did you also put it back on?


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