Coming back to P cars - Thoughts on Renn 2.7 swap in 996?
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Coming back to P cars - Thoughts on Renn 2.7 swap in 996?
Hello all,
I've not posted on rennlist for quite a while. After years of P car ownership I stepped away for a while. Having two small kids, career commitments, and being heavily into restoring airplanes, I didn't have the time to wrench on Porsches (my last 964 project sat in my garage for 3 years :P ).
The Porsche cravings though are now too much to bare !
I have had my eyes on a project for a while now and wanted to see what fellow renlisters thought about it.
I'm very interested in buying a 996 coupe with no engine or problem engine, and fitting the "Renn 2.7" engine swap into it. I love the audi 2.7 twin turbo engine (I've seen my mech install 10-15 of them in A4's), and would love to fit one in a 996. Not interested in LS work.
Is there anyone here with an Audi 2.7 in their 996?
Anyone here considering it?
What is the rennlist general options on this?
I know purists with not be on board with this, and I respect that view. However I'm into this for the fun, not the ideology, petagree, or re-sale value etc.
I'd love to hear what you may think.
If you haven't looked, here is their website for reference...
https://www.renn27.com/
Happy new year,
Michael
I've not posted on rennlist for quite a while. After years of P car ownership I stepped away for a while. Having two small kids, career commitments, and being heavily into restoring airplanes, I didn't have the time to wrench on Porsches (my last 964 project sat in my garage for 3 years :P ).
The Porsche cravings though are now too much to bare !
I have had my eyes on a project for a while now and wanted to see what fellow renlisters thought about it.
I'm very interested in buying a 996 coupe with no engine or problem engine, and fitting the "Renn 2.7" engine swap into it. I love the audi 2.7 twin turbo engine (I've seen my mech install 10-15 of them in A4's), and would love to fit one in a 996. Not interested in LS work.
Is there anyone here with an Audi 2.7 in their 996?
Anyone here considering it?
What is the rennlist general options on this?
I know purists with not be on board with this, and I respect that view. However I'm into this for the fun, not the ideology, petagree, or re-sale value etc.
I'd love to hear what you may think.
If you haven't looked, here is their website for reference...
https://www.renn27.com/
Happy new year,
Michael
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imhighlander (01-01-2023)
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The guys are local to me and from everything I’ve been told really cool.
You have my encouragement !
You have my encouragement !
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Excellent idea...
Had a 2.7t in my s4, gave car to my son when it was 3 years old, he was in college in central FL. He abused it like a typical wild college kid. Every corner was dented. Oil never changed till it came home to me after 15,000+ miles. Fixed the dents/dings, tuned it up with a chip, it went back to college with son for another 10,000 miles of total abuse from a 20year old boy. Car never missed a beat, just ran strong and sounded great. No 5 chains slapping around, no piston slap, no imsb, no aos problems, no bore score, didn't use oil. Ran like a timex, and pulled like my tuned F350 6.7. I luv the power delivery of a good tuned turbo engine...
The Audi 2.7t replaced a 1 year old 99 boxster the son had his first year in college. The Boxster came home on a flatbed with puddle of oil under it. I've built hundreds of engines... Most of my rebuilds were to freshen up a worn out engine and beef it up, typical was to find cyls out of round, piston skirts collapsed, compression down, bearings worn out, valves leaking, etc, but engine still running, not in a pile of destroyed parts with holes in the block... To their credit Porsche after much bitching, did warranty a new engine. Then I sold it fast for good money.
So from my anecdotal experience, the iron block 2.7t is a powerful beast and seems college kid proof, unlike the delicate, catastrophic failure prone 996/986 Porsche.
Wondering how good the stock 2.7t oil sump baffles are for track use..? Can it take the g's a 996 chassis can deal out..?
Looks like the perfect engine swap for a great handling, powerful,stout, long long living, keeping it in the tutonic family, swap. Purist can have their m96 engines, for me, the m96 is the least favorite engine I've ever owned. And I've had more cars, trucks, boats, motorcycles, snow mobiles, jetski, atv, and SxS than I can count....
Keep us informed with pics please. This might be my next project when 1 of my 996 $hit the bed as I can't justify putting 15K into another m96 with 5chains, aos, feeble oiling system, etc....
jmho
Had a 2.7t in my s4, gave car to my son when it was 3 years old, he was in college in central FL. He abused it like a typical wild college kid. Every corner was dented. Oil never changed till it came home to me after 15,000+ miles. Fixed the dents/dings, tuned it up with a chip, it went back to college with son for another 10,000 miles of total abuse from a 20year old boy. Car never missed a beat, just ran strong and sounded great. No 5 chains slapping around, no piston slap, no imsb, no aos problems, no bore score, didn't use oil. Ran like a timex, and pulled like my tuned F350 6.7. I luv the power delivery of a good tuned turbo engine...
The Audi 2.7t replaced a 1 year old 99 boxster the son had his first year in college. The Boxster came home on a flatbed with puddle of oil under it. I've built hundreds of engines... Most of my rebuilds were to freshen up a worn out engine and beef it up, typical was to find cyls out of round, piston skirts collapsed, compression down, bearings worn out, valves leaking, etc, but engine still running, not in a pile of destroyed parts with holes in the block... To their credit Porsche after much bitching, did warranty a new engine. Then I sold it fast for good money.
So from my anecdotal experience, the iron block 2.7t is a powerful beast and seems college kid proof, unlike the delicate, catastrophic failure prone 996/986 Porsche.
Wondering how good the stock 2.7t oil sump baffles are for track use..? Can it take the g's a 996 chassis can deal out..?
Looks like the perfect engine swap for a great handling, powerful,stout, long long living, keeping it in the tutonic family, swap. Purist can have their m96 engines, for me, the m96 is the least favorite engine I've ever owned. And I've had more cars, trucks, boats, motorcycles, snow mobiles, jetski, atv, and SxS than I can count....
Keep us informed with pics please. This might be my next project when 1 of my 996 $hit the bed as I can't justify putting 15K into another m96 with 5chains, aos, feeble oiling system, etc....
jmho
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imhighlander (01-01-2023)
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Do it! I was looking at e-gas 996 cars on copart thinking of this swap a few days ago. I just wish that I could swap my '99 (I guess you can't because you need the electronic throttle).
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Go for it! The only two question I have is
(1) what solutions are available to address oil starvation on the track, and
(2) how much do you have to rip up the car to get it to fit?
(1) what solutions are available to address oil starvation on the track, and
(2) how much do you have to rip up the car to get it to fit?
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TexSquirrel (01-01-2023)
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I wish a swap could be reversed without having "scars" if you ever wanted to.
Someday a swapped/chopped Porsche 996 may not be worth as much compared to "unmolested" similar to old SB Chevy swapped aircooled Porsches.
If I were to do a swap, it would be an LS swap in order to build a "competitive" drag & drive/Texas Mile car.
The most limiting factor is the transmission and gearing.
At the moment it's cheaper to use a different platform.
Someday a swapped/chopped Porsche 996 may not be worth as much compared to "unmolested" similar to old SB Chevy swapped aircooled Porsches.
If I were to do a swap, it would be an LS swap in order to build a "competitive" drag & drive/Texas Mile car.
The most limiting factor is the transmission and gearing.
At the moment it's cheaper to use a different platform.
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From what I recall no permanent mods were required to install the 2.7T swap. There is even an electrical adapter box to plug into the factory wiring which keeps all the dash functionality.
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imhighlander (01-01-2023)
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For 60 years a Porsche 911 has been a 2 door sports car with a rear mounted flat 6 engine.
But the Renn27 kit does looks pretty cool. Mainly because all the gauges and a/c still function properly.
There’s none of the ”I dated my first cousin” look ls swaps have.
And since they’ve done all the hard work, all you need to do is send them 10K.
Just don’t call it a Porsche 911
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Agreed. It's an A27 Porsche.
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