Replacing a good dual row IMS?
#16
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Philbert996, are the Bosche OEM ok, or do we have to go for the $300+ Porsche branded one? Thanks.
#17
I have a 99 Carrera with 81k, I did replace the bearing with the IMS solution, just to never worry about that again, and glad that I did it, the old bearing was very wobbly, I don't think it would last very long, on my 02 cents even when I hear that the dual row it is not a big issue, is still a 20-year-old part that the seals had been degraded and the oil has washed the internal grease so it was running with little lubrication that won't last forever, I did remove the seals and it did not have any grease, might a very circumstantial thing. Regardless, I'll consider putting a new bearing than running the old one.
#19
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.1s are “only” $100, so $600 for a new set of OEM isn’t that bad.
At $1,800, I’d be looking for an alternative too.
But most people that I trust recommend staying away from rebuilt injectors for the M96.
#20
Posting this to give you a different view.
When replaying the clutch I would check the IMS bearing for play and base my decision on that.
If leaving it in, I would remove the seal.
I left mine in after doing the above on my 99 C2 at 112k miles (currently 120k miles).
When replaying the clutch I would check the IMS bearing for play and base my decision on that.
If leaving it in, I would remove the seal.
I left mine in after doing the above on my 99 C2 at 112k miles (currently 120k miles).
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hbdunn (06-30-2023)
#21
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Thanks for all the responses, I'll keep the appointment with the shop to do the IMS then. The guys uses both LN & EPS but has a slight preference for the latter. RMS is also included in the job.
Picking up the car tomorrow (well, actually later today being that it's past midnight here)
Picking up the car tomorrow (well, actually later today being that it's past midnight here)
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RennPart (07-02-2023)
#22
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The LN Engineering folks aren't keen on the roller bearing and they have a point https://lnengineering.com/products/t...-bearings.html
So you should read this if you haven't already. As an engineer, I would have thought the roller bearing was best, but I did like the ceramic materials used in the IMS Retrofit. Let us know how it goes!
So you should read this if you haven't already. As an engineer, I would have thought the roller bearing was best, but I did like the ceramic materials used in the IMS Retrofit. Let us know how it goes!
#23
Burning Brakes
The LN Engineering folks aren't keen on the roller bearing and they have a point https://lnengineering.com/products/t...-bearings.html
So you should read this if you haven't already. As an engineer, I would have thought the roller bearing was best, but I did like the ceramic materials used in the IMS Retrofit. Let us know how it goes!
So you should read this if you haven't already. As an engineer, I would have thought the roller bearing was best, but I did like the ceramic materials used in the IMS Retrofit. Let us know how it goes!
Oh wait they do like the roller bearing they sell.
#24
Nordschleife Master
I like to follow Lee Jenkins of Hartech, UK. The EPS bearing seems to be more popular in Europe. Every month Lee is posting another failure associated with EPS.
Contact Lee and let him tell you want he thinks about the EPS roller bearing.
Look how it doesn't sit flush on the shaft. It tends to grind into the flange. In this case, it appears it broke the center bolt.
Contact Lee and let him tell you want he thinks about the EPS roller bearing.
Look how it doesn't sit flush on the shaft. It tends to grind into the flange. In this case, it appears it broke the center bolt.
#25
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Got a 996.2 with 61.5k miles. Replaced my oem imsb a long time ago with the LN Retro. Just replaced it again with the Retro last year. Here is a picture of it after 10+ years and alot of track days.
As a side note, I ran Millers Nano 5w40 throughout that time and changed the oil approximately every 600+ miles. Fresh oil for the track, changed the oil after being on the track, as well as 2x a year if I didn't track the car at all. No bore scoring and good oil tests. Good parts with fresh oil matters.
It still looks brand new. But it does need to be replaced in contrast to the LN Solution. Bet the dual row imsb is in the same boat. Everything wears with usage and age.
As a side note, I ran Millers Nano 5w40 throughout that time and changed the oil approximately every 600+ miles. Fresh oil for the track, changed the oil after being on the track, as well as 2x a year if I didn't track the car at all. No bore scoring and good oil tests. Good parts with fresh oil matters.
It still looks brand new. But it does need to be replaced in contrast to the LN Solution. Bet the dual row imsb is in the same boat. Everything wears with usage and age.
Last edited by GC996; 07-03-2023 at 12:35 PM.
#26
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Yikes!
#28
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Make sure the car has the original engine and wasn’t a Porsche replacement early in its life. I have a 99 which I believed to be a dual row until I pulled the IMS using the LN tools and to my dismay it was a single row since I didn’t check the engine serial number.
#29
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This is a very good point. Apparently quite a few engines were replaced under warranty by Porsche for RMS issues. My 2002 targa had a replacement engine and none of the service records say a word about it.