Opinions on buying a 996 as an upgrade from a 986
#16
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I’ve seen that engine stand picture before….. another post perhaps? Not saying that’s bad.
#17
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If you like your 986 but want more power, then a 986 (or 7) S is a better upgrade path. The Carrera isn’t that much faster than an S and the handling is not as good (I’ve had both). Granted, the 996 is a better road tripper.
IMHO, don’t buy a pcar because it’s a “deal,” buy it because it’s the one you want.
IMHO, don’t buy a pcar because it’s a “deal,” buy it because it’s the one you want.
My advice: drive a 996 and 986S locally and then determine for yourself which one you like.
And Skip is correct about the additional complexities of the Cab on a 996. If you don’t care, get the coupe, which is lighter anyway.
#18
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Something fishy here. Indy shop that knows Porsches has a repaired motor in a cool color car for $21K? And he is willing to put in fresh struts at cost? And when I read what Allcool reminded me about : "And in their defense, once they know the 'good looking' block is trash and needs $7500+ more $$$$$ worth of sleeving/shipping/pistons/rods?/etc, they feel going from a non-running spun main bearing to at least a running engine (with a load of good new parts) is a step forward as its almost impossible to justify the extra co$t to a flipper.."
I'd follow his advice. Join the PCA and read the ads there. Much better way to find a well sorted car. And there is nothing wrong with a cab as long as you have an extra $3K in reserve for when that needs repair.
I'd follow his advice. Join the PCA and read the ads there. Much better way to find a well sorted car. And there is nothing wrong with a cab as long as you have an extra $3K in reserve for when that needs repair.
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DVB5150 (11-15-2023)
#19
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How many miles and time on this rebuilt engine?
#20
This is starting to sound fishy, buyer beware if he asks you for a deposit before you book your ticket be careful, the red flag for me, is the whole suspension for $2,200 hes bending over backwards its starting to sound too good to be true...
i'm not you so i don't know what you info you have, can we say, that you have been sent pictures and information that lead you to believe its a real car, and that you have talked with a live person on the phone not just texting?
i'm not you so i don't know what you info you have, can we say, that you have been sent pictures and information that lead you to believe its a real car, and that you have talked with a live person on the phone not just texting?
#21
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Correction on further evidence.
mpfaff. If he has seen these pictures in other posts, then, yeah, then ghost this guy ASAP. - take this back. It's a Rennpart rebuild.
Last edited by 996-CAB; 11-16-2023 at 01:10 PM. Reason: Correction
#22
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I have had a 996 Carrera at north of 170k miles which was still driving just fine and had no visible or perceptible problems with oil usage, blow-by or any other issues. One of my best friends has another 996 C2 with over 200k miles without any issues. I am just confused, should we have stopped driving our cars at some point and done a rebuild?
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#25
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The pics look like one of Aaron's rennpart rebuilds...
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post19069794
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post19069794
Last edited by fazm; 11-16-2023 at 10:26 AM.
#27
Yep. Some people on the thread are thinking it could be someone shady. I don't think so at all. He strikes me as a very honest guy that understands this stuff really well and stands by his work. I suspect he didn't sleeve the cylinders to make sure he didn't get underwater on the project which i also do understand. I'm just trying to learn things the easy way by getting the advice of the community here.
All the opinions are very much appreciated.
All the opinions are very much appreciated.
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fazm (11-16-2023)
#28
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I totally get the "It could also be fine and go for 100k more miles." brain worms.
I would not choose to finance finding out on the downside.
Keep looking, imo.
I would not choose to finance finding out on the downside.
Keep looking, imo.
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DVB5150 (11-16-2023)
#29
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I have had a 996 Carrera at north of 170k miles which was still driving just fine and had no visible or perceptible problems with oil usage, blow-by or any other issues. One of my best friends has another 996 C2 with over 200k miles without any issues. I am just confused, should we have stopped driving our cars at some point and done a rebuild?
I love it, your very high mileage m96 engine(s) runs good, with full power, no oil usage , excess blowby, piston slap, or bore scoring. Or any other problems..? You must take very good care of your car.
I'd expect nothing less from an expensive German sports car.
However that wasn't what my post addressed. My post was about rebuilding(re-ringing) high mileage m96 engines. as thats what part of this thread is about.
The over limit OOR/taper comes into play when you go to rebuild a over 100k m96 block. And want the new rings to seat/seal correctly in old oor cylinders, As I explained in above post.
The claim ALL m96 blocks by 100k are over limit, many way out, comes from Charles @ LN, confirmed by PT3(probably the most experienced knowledgeable m96 tech on here or maybe anywhere) many other m96 experts have also confirmed this common m96 block structure/OOR/failure condition.
LN gets in dozens? hundreds? of blocks, to make that claim. PT3 worked at Porsche dealerships for 100 years. I believe them, have no reason not too. As I've measured a m96 block last summer @ only 60k miles and it was at .00265" taper/oor. Max limit is said to be a very liberal .0035". So at 60k block was .00085" from being out of spec. What you think it would be at in another 40k miles..? A new block starts a 0 oor/taper.
jmo
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tommelton (11-16-2023)
#30
Literally 100 years at Porsche dealerships. He follows a strict regimen of protein shakes loaded with organic kale and Motul racing oil and he’s had more fistfights with angry young dentists and stock brokers that burnt out the clutches of their new 911s than you’ve had sex with women.
(And he’s one of the very few ppl actually engineering functional m96 upgrades)
(And he’s one of the very few ppl actually engineering functional m96 upgrades)
Last edited by DVB5150; 11-16-2023 at 12:38 PM.