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Old 04-12-2024, 02:28 AM
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Default Best technique and scope for "Bore Scoping"

I have mentioned this several times before but the word just doesn't get spread very well.....I keep seeing the recommended Bore scope being either from the Sump or from the spark plugs holes..

Here is my newest Bore Scope I just got and using the proceedure to just remove the access plug for the wrist pins then you can get a good look at the bottoms of cyl 4-5-6 in just minutes without even draining the oil...

The Bore Scope is a Vevor brand and has a 6mm lens with "articulating head" and cost about $100 ....( yes it's made in China like most everything now) ..Has a 5 inch screen a 1 meter length probe and 8x zoom and 3 light brighteess for the LED...Very clear picture and automatic focus...

Here is a video of the whole proceedure in just a few minutes... and a pic of the acccess port for the wrist pins.. :

Note the picture is upside down, the engine is on a stand. It is an engine I bought years ago for $2500 has 100k miles... was a good running engine was only pulled because the shop was doing a wild body kit and engine swap and had no need for the engine... I just bought to have around as a "just incase" I actally have 2 m96/01s on engines stands, this one and a fresh rebuilt one I've had for 17 years "just in case."...




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This is a nice easy option. I did try it after you initially told me about it a while back. Worked great and was MUCH easier. My borescope doesn’t have the articulating head, so in my case I was somewhat limited, but still got a good glimpse.
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Pt3, Very nice... I'll try that soon, thanks for sharing.

I don't care for scoping from underneath in the sump. Maybe if i had the $$$$ snapon scope then I could actually see whats going on in there good enough to satisfy me to make a correct call on bore score. Ya, suppose if bore score was real bad it would easily be apparent. But a mild case with a few scores here and there, not so easy for me to see. Not to mention the contortions needed to get at all cylinders sufficiently to see the complete condition while getting oil dripped on the lens and me.

Ya, the pin plug method seems much better.
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Skip's method is a good option, but it is still a good idea to drop the sump on any engine you are inspecting, especially during a PPI. You'd be surprised what people have found in the sump on running engines that had no symptoms.
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Nice job! Nice borescope too. Looks to be cheaper than the one I got, which has an articulating head but needs a smartphone for a screen.

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Originally Posted by JTT
This is a nice easy option. I did try it after you initially told me about it a while back. Worked great and was MUCH easier. My borescope doesn’t have the articulating head, so in my case I was somewhat limited, but still got a good glimpse.
@JTT yes you always pay attention to my comments, thank you !! I hate feeling like I'm talking to an empty room...
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Originally Posted by allcool
Pt3, Very nice... I'll try that soon, thanks for sharing.

I don't care for scoping from underneath in the sump. Maybe if i had the $$$$ snapon scope then I could actually see whats going on in there good enough to satisfy me to make a correct call on bore score. Ya, suppose if bore score was real bad it would easily be apparent. But a mild case with a few scores here and there, not so easy for me to see. Not to mention the contortions needed to get at all cylinders sufficiently to see the complete condition while getting oil dripped on the lens and me.

Ya, the pin plug method seems much better.
Yes, that's the worst thing about working with the sump off, the oil will drip for days and days....
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Originally Posted by Charles Navarro
Skip's method is a good option, but it is still a good idea to drop the sump on any engine you are inspecting, especially during a PPI. You'd be surprised what people have found in the sump on running engines that had no symptoms.
@Charles Navarro absoluty !!! Looking at whats in the Sump is the best way to get a look into the whole heart of the engine , and so much can be learned about the engine as a whole from that view...

My favorite thing to do on an "unknown engine"...
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Skip, will this method work on 997 models, either 997.1 or DFI .2 models?
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Originally Posted by wdb
Nice job! Nice borescope too. Looks to be cheaper than the one I got, which has an articulating head but needs a smartphone for a screen.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BQLPB8VS

Yeah...at first I wasn't crazy at having the screen as a removable part of the tool and 32g Micro Memory card for the video's and pictures...You have to pop out the memory card and place it in a thumb drive reader USB to transfer to laptop or post them......But that is just so easy and everything stays together that after I used it, I realy like it that way..
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Skip is this the one you bought ?

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Originally Posted by Optionman1
Skip, will this method work on 997 models, either 997.1 or DFI .2 models?
It will definatly work on 997.1 models....I haven't tried on the 997.2 DFI models so I won't comment on that...
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Originally Posted by Charles Navarro
Skip's method is a good option, but it is still a good idea to drop the sump on any engine you are inspecting, especially during a PPI. You'd be surprised what people have found in the sump on running engines that had no symptoms.
My oil change routine on m96 is to always remove sump plate, then have a detailed look around for any harbingers of the future. Its only a handful of bolts the electric ratchet makes short work of.

Then clean it all up nice. A very little sealer tacked up with my fingers in a quantity that never seeps/squeezes out at the seam. doesn't take a lot to seal a perfectly flat clean surface. I've tried to explain that unsuccessfully to many other techs that squeeze out a bead all around a part and slap it together...
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Originally Posted by Porschetech3
@Charles Navarro absoluty !!! Looking at whats in the Sump is the best way to get a look into the whole heart of the engine , and so much can be learned about the engine as a whole from that view...

My favorite thing to do on an "unknown engine"...
Agreed.

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