HRE wheels getting banned

yetis · 06-08-2005, 12:05 AM

Just thought some would find this interesting. According to the post on Audiworld they are going to be banned at PCA events!

http://forums.audiworld.com/lrqc/msgs/41036.phtml

evo_333 · 06-08-2005, 01:17 PM

interesting... Is it being banned at certain PCA events or is this nationwide?

(I don't know how you read that forum, it's hurting my eyes looking at how the threads are layed out!)

LVDell · 06-08-2005, 01:40 PM

Same problems with Kenisis (spelling?). There were 4 rims that failed at the DE event this past weekend! Here's a picture.

DeAd-EyE · 06-08-2005, 01:49 PM

^ i was under the impression that kinesis rims were good quality and often used in racing. perhaps this is an issolated incident? did all 4 rims fail on the same car?

LVDell · 06-08-2005, 01:54 PM

Nope....different cars.

evo_333 · 06-08-2005, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LVDell

Same problems with Kenisis (spelling?). There were 4 rims that failed at the DE event this past weekend! Here's a picture.

WTF I've never seen that happen to a rim before

LVDell · 06-08-2005, 02:03 PM

Me neither. I was shocked. Not to mention I was PISSSED that I lost 2 hours of my track day while they figured how to get that car off the track! Not handled well. They could have easily had that taken care of in 15 mintues. Go out there, jack up the car, remove the leftover piece, put on another wheel, drive back to the paddock, check track for debris, resume racing!

Oh yeah....that's what they ended up doing and talking with the owner about God knows what for some time. ARRGGGGHHHH!!!!!

evo_333 · 06-08-2005, 02:11 PM

i hear ya.. that's annoying

fahren affair · 06-08-2005, 02:11 PM

best evidence yet that we should stick w/ what porsche uses for it's cup cars -- bbs.
hre and kinesis are expensive too boot.

LVDell · 06-08-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahren affair

best evidence yet that we should stick w/ what porsche uses for it's cup cars -- bbs.
hre and kinesis are expensive too boot.

Totally concur! I will only use factory (usually BBS) or BBS wheels on the track.

BBailey · 06-08-2005, 02:22 PM

You can use whatever wheels you want on the track and likely be safe, but if you don't check them regularly, you deserve the failure that is bound to happen. Nothing that is exposed to constant fatique will last forever.

Common sense rules.
__________________
Brian Bailey
Autometrics Motorsports Porsche 996 - Grand-Am Cup #45
'87 Porsche 944 Turbo - PCA GT3s

LVDell · 06-08-2005, 02:31 PM

BB.....Fyi, those wheels were just a few months old.

VB997 · 06-08-2005, 02:38 PM

I’m stressed out now…I just put Kinesis K19’s on my 997 (for the track)

JimB · 06-08-2005, 02:58 PM

I've wondered about this for a long time. I used to be that you had street wheels that were strong but fairly heavy and you had track wheels that were light but had to be maintained on a regular basis. Now you have all these super lightweight street wheels. I don't know how you make a 19 lbs street wheel that can handle the stresses of potholes and high g-force track use. I don't care if it's HRE, Kinesis or someone else.

If I were buying track wheels I would only buy BBS or Jongebloed but Brian is dead on. Track wheels of any kind need to be checked on a very regular basis.
Jim

LVDell · 06-08-2005, 03:08 PM

Jim....do you think that there may have been hairline cracks, etc., that the driver could have seen B4 going out on the track?

06-08-2005, 12:05 AM	#1
yetis Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The City, NY Posts: 1,402	HRE wheels getting banned Just thought some would find this interesting. According to the post on Audiworld they are going to be banned at PCA events! http://forums.audiworld.com/lrqc/msgs/41036.phtml __________________ Chris RL# 041015-4860 2005 955 TT 2001 996 C4 - Gone 2001 Audi S4 - Gone! Last edited by yetis; 06-08-2005 at 12:44 AM.

06-08-2005, 02:22 PM	#11
BBailey Addict Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 248	You can use whatever wheels you want on the track and likely be safe, but if you don't check them regularly, you deserve the failure that is bound to happen. Nothing that is exposed to constant fatique will last forever. Common sense rules. __________________ Brian Bailey Autometrics Motorsports Porsche 996 - Grand-Am Cup #45 '87 Porsche 944 Turbo - PCA GT3s __________________ Brian Bailey

06-08-2005, 02:58 PM	#14
JimB Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: MN Posts: 2,524	I've wondered about this for a long time. I used to be that you had street wheels that were strong but fairly heavy and you had track wheels that were light but had to be maintained on a regular basis. Now you have all these super lightweight street wheels. I don't know how you make a 19 lbs street wheel that can handle the stresses of potholes and high g-force track use. I don't care if it's HRE, Kinesis or someone else. If I were buying track wheels I would only buy BBS or Jongebloed but Brian is dead on. Track wheels of any kind need to be checked on a very regular basis. Jim __________________ 2007 997 cup car

06-08-2005, 01:17 PM	#2
evo_333 User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: manhattan Posts: 1,368	interesting... Is it being banned at certain PCA events or is this nationwide? (I don't know how you read that forum, it's hurting my eyes looking at how the threads are layed out!)

06-08-2005, 01:49 PM	#4
DeAd-EyE By The Power Of Greyskull Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto/Montreal, Canada Posts: 6,499	^ i was under the impression that kinesis rims were good quality and often used in racing. perhaps this is an issolated incident? did all 4 rims fail on the same car? __________________ - Omar Team Mischief Is Debating Using Sick Days and Vacation Time To 100% Complete Modern Warfare 2 Main Car: '99 Carrera - It's Stock...ish Motorcycle:'05 Aprilia RSV1000R Acquired

06-08-2005, 01:54 PM	#5
LVDell Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wake Zone Coffee House in Apex, NC Posts: 5,037	Nope....different cars.

06-08-2005, 02:03 PM	#7
LVDell Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wake Zone Coffee House in Apex, NC Posts: 5,037	Me neither. I was shocked. Not to mention I was PISSSED that I lost 2 hours of my track day while they figured how to get that car off the track! Not handled well. They could have easily had that taken care of in 15 mintues. Go out there, jack up the car, remove the leftover piece, put on another wheel, drive back to the paddock, check track for debris, resume racing! Oh yeah....that's what they ended up doing and talking with the owner about God knows what for some time. ARRGGGGHHHH!!!!!

06-08-2005, 02:11 PM	#8
evo_333 User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: manhattan Posts: 1,368	i hear ya.. that's annoying

06-08-2005, 02:11 PM	#9
fahren affair User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newport Beach, California Posts: 685	best evidence yet that we should stick w/ what porsche uses for it's cup cars -- bbs. hre and kinesis are expensive too boot.

06-08-2005, 02:31 PM	#12
LVDell Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wake Zone Coffee House in Apex, NC Posts: 5,037	BB.....Fyi, those wheels were just a few months old.

06-08-2005, 03:08 PM	#15
LVDell Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wake Zone Coffee House in Apex, NC Posts: 5,037	Jim....do you think that there may have been hairline cracks, etc., that the driver could have seen B4 going out on the track?