A 996 c2 X51 and a stock TT Have nearly the same HP..
12-14-2005, 12:00 PM
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A 996 c2 X51 and a stock TT Have nearly the same HP..
at the wheels. A TT loses 25% of HP through the AWD system. A C2 X51 loses 15%. There is little difference. Isn't a TT also heavier?
12-14-2005, 12:17 PM
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415 or 450 (x50) for the TT and 320 or 345 (for x51)for the NA.
.........so not really sure what you are asking???
If it's performance numbers like 0-60 then those aren't close either. There is a reason their is over a $40K difference between these cars.
.........so not really sure what you are asking???
If it's performance numbers like 0-60 then those aren't close either. There is a reason their is over a $40K difference between these cars.
12-14-2005, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cladd
at the wheels. A TT loses 25% of HP through the AWD system. A C2 X51 loses 15%. There is little difference. Isn't a TT also heavier?
12-14-2005, 12:33 PM
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Cladd,
Where are you getting your facts from? If this were the case then a X51 C2 should be able to keep up with a 996 TT correct? Raw performance numbers would tell the story more than HP/Weight ratios,etc and the performance numbers I have seen aren't real close.
Where are you getting your facts from? If this were the case then a X51 C2 should be able to keep up with a 996 TT correct? Raw performance numbers would tell the story more than HP/Weight ratios,etc and the performance numbers I have seen aren't real close.
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12-14-2005, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cladd
I disagree. It's 25%.
12-14-2005, 12:39 PM
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I'm kinda multitasking but, there was a recent dyno thread on the TT board, and consensus was aboout 300hp at the wheels for a stock TT(no x50)(25% loss from flywheel). C2 loss was agreed at 15%.
12-14-2005, 12:45 PM
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Remember the system is usually 95% rear biased, 5% front, so most of the time the front differential isn't dragging all that much.
However, I think a well setup x51 car, with a good suspension/tires could spank a bone stock US spec TT around a track, esp a cab. A well setup TT is another matter.
However, I think a well setup x51 car, with a good suspension/tires could spank a bone stock US spec TT around a track, esp a cab. A well setup TT is another matter.
12-14-2005, 12:52 PM
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For the track or DD? If track, then the TT setup right would be a monster but if you are just cruising around town then the C2 is the smarter choice.
12-14-2005, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cladd
at the wheels. A TT loses 25% of HP through the AWD system. A C2 X51 loses 15%. There is little difference. Isn't a TT also heavier?
Own a TT, have driven many NA cars including a 40th jahre model.......trust me, they are LIGHT YEARS apart in performance.
A TT does not lose appreciably more HP though the front wheels.....go and look at the official 0-60 times between a C2 and C4 car to confirm.
Assume 15-17% loss in either case.
12-14-2005, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LVDell
For the track or DD? If track, then the TT setup right would be a monster but if you are just cruising around town then the C2 is the smarter choice.
TT for the street.
C2 X51 for the track.
