Hood damaged by Cement Company
05-23-2008, 05:23 PM
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05-23-2008, 08:07 PM
#48
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05-23-2008, 08:10 PM
#49
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[QUOTE=jasper;5441311]
From where I sit it's fresh concrete before it's set and hardened concrete after. Ready-mix is a special albeit common form of fresh concrete.
Look at it this way, say you were living next door to the OP, and you were mixing up some concrete in your mixer at home so you could build a garage. Then lets say you had one too many beers and ended up splashing your neighbours hood while you were tipping your mix into your forms.
The next day you wouldn't be apologizing for getting ready-mix on his car would you? Ready Mix is so-called because it comes delivered to the work site ready to place.
Yes, I agree that it was ready-mixed concrete on his car, but it was concrete first, and Ready Mix second.
edit: and yes - any self respecting male should know the difference between cement and concrete.
Other way around, ready mix was spilled, concrete was what "peeled" (how I don't know) the paint off.
From where I sit it's fresh concrete before it's set and hardened concrete after. Ready-mix is a special albeit common form of fresh concrete.
Look at it this way, say you were living next door to the OP, and you were mixing up some concrete in your mixer at home so you could build a garage. Then lets say you had one too many beers and ended up splashing your neighbours hood while you were tipping your mix into your forms.
The next day you wouldn't be apologizing for getting ready-mix on his car would you? Ready Mix is so-called because it comes delivered to the work site ready to place.
Yes, I agree that it was ready-mixed concrete on his car, but it was concrete first, and Ready Mix second.
edit: and yes - any self respecting male should know the difference between cement and concrete.
Other way around, ready mix was spilled, concrete was what "peeled" (how I don't know) the paint off.
05-23-2008, 08:28 PM
#50
Three Wheelin'
[QUOTE=Eharrison;5441806]
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I mean that ready mix is a type of concrete...but all concrete is not ready mix. Ready mix is concrete which is delivered to a build site "ready" to place, as in the case at hand, but not all concrete is ready mix.
All concrete is however concrete, even before it's hardened (or hydrated to be more exact).....unless you're talking about mortars.
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I mean that ready mix is a type of concrete...but all concrete is not ready mix. Ready mix is concrete which is delivered to a build site "ready" to place, as in the case at hand, but not all concrete is ready mix.
All concrete is however concrete, even before it's hardened (or hydrated to be more exact).....unless you're talking about mortars.
05-23-2008, 09:16 PM
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05-23-2008, 09:35 PM
#52
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Put very simply, if someone doesn't want me to collect $600 from their insurance and spend it the way I choose to, I'd recommend that they don't hit my Porsche.
05-23-2008, 10:45 PM
#53
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You're implying that I'm not a straight-up kind of guy because I expect someone that causes me $600 of property damage to reimburse me for the diminished value of my vehicle?
Put very simply, if someone doesn't want me to collect $600 from their insurance and spend it the way I choose to, I'd recommend that they don't hit my Porsche.
Put very simply, if someone doesn't want me to collect $600 from their insurance and spend it the way I choose to, I'd recommend that they don't hit my Porsche.
You're twisting my words and missing the point. I implied nothing. I made personal statements and said nothing about you.
05-24-2008, 12:27 AM
#54
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I like how a thread on what approach to take on getting a paint repair on a car has now spurned two tangents, one on ethics and morals and the other on definition of ready mix and concrete.
And Jasper I'm going in the same direction as you I'm just a block over.
Ready mix is to dough as concrete is to cake. That's my final answer.
And Jasper I'm going in the same direction as you I'm just a block over.
Ready mix is to dough as concrete is to cake. That's my final answer.
05-24-2008, 10:44 AM
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Either way, you can have the field to yourself.
05-24-2008, 12:13 PM
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That said, Kim's ring analogy seemed spot-on to me...if the topic intrigues me enough, I think a simple poll would clarify the average guy's feelings on the topic.
05-24-2008, 04:27 PM
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Your words didn't require any twisting and I think any reasonable person would have inferred the same thing I did. In any case, the thought has never even crossed my mind that using money owed to me in whatever manner I like is inappropriate in the slightest way.
That said, Kim's ring analogy seemed spot-on to me...if the topic intrigues me enough, I think a simple poll would clarify the average guy's feelings on the topic.
That said, Kim's ring analogy seemed spot-on to me...if the topic intrigues me enough, I think a simple poll would clarify the average guy's feelings on the topic.
Wouldn't you have to know what your policy says to know if just keeping the money is morally right? I mean, if the policy says they will repair the car, or provide money to have the car repaired, rather than reimburse you for the loss, then contractually, are you not obligated to spend the money only for the repair of the car? Isn't that why the insurance companies write the check out in both names in the first place?
05-24-2008, 06:19 PM
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I mean, if the policy says they will repair the car, or provide money to have the car repaired, rather than reimburse you for the loss, then contractually, are you not obligated to spend the money only for the repair of the car? Isn't that why the insurance companies write the check out in both names in the first place?
05-24-2008, 07:36 PM
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If somebody hits my car, my insurance company doesn't have anything to do with it, and their insurance company isn't in a position to tell me what to do with the money they owe me.
See above. We're not talking about me turning in damage to my own company. That sometimes IS dictated by your policy's language.
See above. We're not talking about me turning in damage to my own company. That sometimes IS dictated by your policy's language.
05-24-2008, 07:39 PM
#60
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I like how a thread on what approach to take on getting a paint repair on a car has now spurned two tangents, one on ethics and morals and the other on definition of ready mix and concrete.
And Jasper I'm going in the same direction as you I'm just a block over.
Ready mix is to dough as concrete is to cake. That's my final answer.
And Jasper I'm going in the same direction as you I'm just a block over.
Ready mix is to dough as concrete is to cake. That's my final answer.
I make cement for a living. I'm the operations manager for the Castle Cement Padeswood Works in Wales UK at the moment. For the last ten years I worked for Lehigh as quality and process manager. Portland Cement is my specialty but you can't help but pick up some concrete knowledge along the way.
For those of ou still fuzzy on the difference, Eharrison's dough and cake analogy is sound. Being a cement man I would add that cement is to readymix as flour is to dough.
I still maintain that fresh concrete is the more correct term to describe the material on the OP's hood. Yes, it was ready mix but all concrete in it's plastic stae is not necessarily ready mix.
We do agree though...let's leave it at that.
Too bad about buddy's car there. Should buff right out.
