Finally installed my B&M SSK - Page 2

peavynation · 10-29-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Gelefsky

Sure just piss on my parade

Seriously, I have heard that before but there are just to many people running these and I would imagine as long are you drive correctly there should be no issue. all you are doing is reducing the throw, I don't think you are really shifting that much quicker unless you beat on it and that can easily be done with the stock setup.

Others more educated than I on this can weigh in.

LOL!! Sorry Marc, I didn't realize it would come across like that!

I figure the same as you, when it comes down to it. I mean I can't see how shifting super quick with a stock shifter would be much different than installing an SSK, except that you wouldn't have to work so hard at it.

I might give it a shot. Although my second gear syncro is already shot, so I'm trying to baby it until I can find the $$$ to put in a rebuilt trans. Uggg.

ivangene · 10-29-2009, 05:12 PM

did you get some donut frosting on it.....

good job

Marc Gelefsky · 10-29-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by peavynation

LOL!! Sorry Marc, I didn't realize it would come across like that!

I figure the same as you, when it comes down to it. I mean I can't see how shifting super quick with a stock shifter would be much different than installing an SSK, except that you wouldn't have to work so hard at it.

I might give it a shot. Although my second gear syncro is already shot, so I'm trying to baby it until I can find the $$$ to put in a rebuilt trans. Uggg.

No worries, I was just kidding!

peavynation · 10-29-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Gelefsky

No worries, I was just kidding!

67FJ45 · 10-29-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by peavynation

Nice Marc!!

What do you all think of this:

I was gonna install one, but a guy at a very reputable Porsche trans rebuild shop (won't mention who it is, PM me if you want to know), advised that a SSK is not the best thing for the syncros. The reasoning is, the shorter throws are asking the trans to shift quicker, which in turn ask the syncros to match speeds quicker causing accelerated wear.

Thoughts? Don't want to hijack this thread, maybe I'll start another...

That has been written in the PCA website tech section. However:
1. it seems inconsistent with Porsche selling a short-throw shifter kit for the car, and
2. speed of the shift is not necessarily related to the distance.
I have a long-term case of tendonitis in my right shoulder, and the short throw is simply easier for me to use than the standard throw. It's also why I use a track ball and not a mouse on my desktop computer.

peavynation · 10-29-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 67FJ45

That has been written in the PCA website tech section. However:
1. it seems inconsistent with Porsche selling a short-throw shifter kit for the car, and
2. speed of the shift is not necessarily related to the distance.
I have a long-term case of tendonitis in my right shoulder, and the short throw is simply easier for me to use than the standard throw. It's also why I use a track ball and not a mouse on my desktop computer.

Yep, number 1 makes sense.
But for number 2, if you shorten the lever arm, the only way the gears/syncros will be brought together at the same rate is if you shift in the same time as a stock shifter. That is, if it took 250ms to move the stock stick from 1st to 2nd, and you shift the SSK in the same time, sure, it's all the same. But, since the shift distance on the stick is now shorter, you should conceivably be able to now move the stick the shorter distance in a shorter amount of time (albeit physics says you'll need a greater force to do it), thus the gears come together quicker.
Is it enough to make a difference of wearing them out? I'm no expert so I don't know. But if Porsche had the SSKs as an option, I say give it a shot, it can't be that bad.

Best idea then: Make a track-ball shifter!!

ivangene · 10-30-2009, 12:27 AM

OK I am drunk now and believe Marc - earlier I was sure he was lying

Hick

awe man - I love you

Hick

That thing looks freeking awesome

Hick

you are the best

hick -

Marc Gelefsky · 10-30-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ivangene

OK I am drunk now and believe Marc - earlier I was sure he was lying

Hick

awe man - I love you

Hick

That thing looks freeking awesome

Hick

you are the best

hick -

haha!!!

Marc Gelefsky · 10-30-2009, 12:25 PM

Just want to add, last night went for a "spirited" drive. The ssk is the BEST mod I have done to my 996.
Perhaps short of suspension and chipping/bigger Turbo a 951 one of the best mods I have done to any of my P-cars.

I give it the thumbs up, Syncros be damned!

gota911 · 10-30-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Gelefsky

You should probably not have mentioned that

Mine was already installed in a 997 cage so the install was really quick and easy.

Just came back from a drive, I am sold. Feels great and the best part is the "rubbery" feeling is gone. That always annoyed me more than the long throws.

I wish I would have installed this months ago, I missed out.

Marc, good for you! That's ^ why I was giving you so much grief about getting it installed, because I knew you would really like it! Well, that and the fact that I enjoy giving the "good guys" a hard time once in a while!

67FJ45 · 10-30-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by peavynation

Best idea then: Make a track-ball shifter!!

They could call it iDrive!! Oh, wait, that's taken already.

AndyK · 10-30-2009, 06:25 PM

I installed my 997 shifter today. Removing the center console was easy following the instructions - thanks Toyota!?

I didn't go for a test drive yet, but I did clean and condition all the leather (there's a LOT of leather)! So the next spirited drive will be in soft, comfy supple leather.

I do wish I could swap the driver and passenger seats - I sat in the passenger seat while cleaning the dash, and it's much more supportive and firm! Is there an easy way to swap the padding maybe?

randy308@optonline.net · 11-01-2009, 07:44 AM

thanks marc,i sent an email to carnewal,i hope they get back to me!

Marc Gelefsky · 11-01-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by randy308@optonline.net

thanks marc,i sent an email to carnewal,i hope they get back to me!

They were VERY responsive and shipping was super fast.

randy308@optonline.net · 11-02-2009, 07:43 AM

marc one more thing,i want the 911 40 jahre script for the rear lid,i wonder if they have it? and yea its 142.00 for the interior piece,welcome to the world of porsche!

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ivangene Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington State - Near Seattle Posts: 6,118	OK I am drunk now and believe Marc - earlier I was sure he was lying Hick awe man - I love you Hick That thing looks freeking awesome Hick you are the best hick - __________________ 86' Coupe Guards Red 99' C2 Black/Savanna (sold / missed) Ed

10-30-2009, 12:25 PM	#24
Marc Gelefsky Super Moderator Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: May 1998 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 9,712	Just want to add, last night went for a "spirited" drive. The ssk is the BEST mod I have done to my 996. Perhaps short of suspension and chipping/bigger Turbo a 951 one of the best mods I have done to any of my P-cars. I give it the thumbs up, Syncros be damned! __________________ Marc Gelefsky 02 996 Coupe 6 Speed Aero 86 911 Carrera Targa - Guards Red 00 Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon - Winter Beater, Dog & Kid Hauler 04 Audi Allroad 2.7T 6 Speed - Wife's Ride Gone - 88 951, 87 951, 86 944na, 85.5 944na x2, 01 Boxster S

10-30-2009, 06:25 PM	#27
AndyK Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 6,173	I installed my 997 shifter today. Removing the center console was easy following the instructions - thanks Toyota!? I didn't go for a test drive yet, but I did clean and condition all the leather (there's a LOT of leather)! So the next spirited drive will be in soft, comfy supple leather. I do wish I could swap the driver and passenger seats - I sat in the passenger seat while cleaning the dash, and it's much more supportive and firm! Is there an easy way to swap the padding maybe? __________________ 2000 996 C2 - Arctic w/ Black full leather, 22k miles '89 944 S2 - SOLD '88 944 Special Edition - SOLD PCA NNJ

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randy308@optonline.net Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: great neck l.i. Posts: 46	thanks marc,i sent an email to carnewal,i hope they get back to me!

11-02-2009, 07:43 AM	#30
randy308@optonline.net Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: great neck l.i. Posts: 46	marc one more thing,i want the 911 40 jahre script for the rear lid,i wonder if they have it? and yea its 142.00 for the interior piece,welcome to the world of porsche!