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Old 02-27-2010, 09:01 PM
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I just spoke to a friend of a friend. He is a salesperson at the Porsche dealership here in Vegas. I told him I change the oil myself, he said he thinks there is a special procedure and he has seen the techs have the car idleing while they add the oil! I've never heard if anything like this. Maybe he wasn't sure about what they were doing. Anyone ever heard of this?
Old 02-27-2010, 09:11 PM
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its called idiocy.
Old 02-27-2010, 09:15 PM
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What BS! Maybe he should stick to selling them...
Old 02-27-2010, 09:17 PM
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I dunno a thing about 996s but on the air cooled cars (964s and 993s), you fill 3/4 ths way and then start it up. You just top it up while idiling very slowly.
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Jeez maybe he should be selling shoes. There is no logic to this
Old 02-27-2010, 09:24 PM
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that only works if you plan on checking the oil with the engine running

the tranny has the same thing.... but requires special oversized tires that are big enough to allow a creeper under the car while driving to get the "best results"

Note this is best done on a special Porsche built road with no bumps so the creeper doesnt get stuck causing the car to drive over the one checking/adding fluid

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I didn't buy it and I KNOW he's not a handy fellow. Thought I'd throw it out there and see if there were some new developments
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I think there is some truth to this. The special proccedure that only a Porsche dealer can do it rumor that is. It circulated quite heavily in the early days of the Boxster and 996. Possibly because the only people that purchased these cars new were mostly not the type to do their own service and there were no service manuals or instructions floating around on the net. Also I think the dealers were responsible for trying to justify the up to $350 for an oil change. This was common and not questioned for a car costing over $60k to well over $100k.
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Originally Posted by nick49
I think there is some truth to this. The special proccedure that only a Porsche dealer can do it rumor that is. It circulated quite heavily in the early days of the Boxster and 996. Possibly because the only people that purchased these cars new were mostly not the type to do their own service and there were no service manuals or instructions floating around on the net. Also I think the dealers were responsible for trying to justify the up to $350 for an oil change. This was common and not questioned for a car costing over $60k to well over $100k.
Now THAT'S pretty believable!
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Perpetuate vague fears => $.
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Sounds like the Porsche mystique regarding only 'specialists' trained by Porsche should be working on your cars... ..they are too complicated for the backyard mechanic.
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Never believe a salesman.........Never!
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It could be that he was confusing the 996 oil fill with dry sump air cooled 911s. (Not sure if the H2O cooled GT3\Turbo are the same)
If it was a 9qt system the recommendation is that you add 8qts and then run it until the engine and oil are warmed up before checking oil level “HOT AT IDLE” and topping up.
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This post definitely takes the prize for the most absurd Sales pitch I have ever heard. Let me understand this correctly, they drain the oil, and then when there is no more oil they add it while the car is idling? Makes perfect sense, I wonder how many engines Porsche is going to warranty from this dealer.
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Originally Posted by russo
This post definitely takes the prize for the most absurd Sales pitch I have ever heard. Let me understand this correctly, they drain the oil, and then when there is no more oil they add it while the car is idling? Makes perfect sense, I wonder how many engines Porsche is going to warranty from this dealer.
None. Cause none of the techs at this dealership would be so stupid as to do this.

And if any customer followed this salesman's dumb *** advice... What a salesman tells you regarding anything related to a car is not worth the paper it is printed upon. Salesmen know little about cars. Worse than little. They know nothing and what they think they know is wrong. They know car selling, maybe.

I haven't of course checked all owners manuals but even for adding oil if the oil level needs toppinp up the instructions are to do this with the engine off.

Some models -- 996 Turbo I know -- the engine oil level is checked with the engine idling, the car on level ground and stationary, and the engine up to operating temperature. The on-board computer will refuse to check the oil level if any of these conditions not met.

Now when I change the oil in my 996 Turbo, after draining the old oil, and with the engine *OFF* of course, I add 8 quarts of oil -- double checking my count of the empty quart bottles cause there's no dipstick to check the oil level -- then start the engine and let it idle until I can get an oil level reading and because the level's a bit low, I add oil, around a half a quart, to bring the oil level up to near the max level marker.

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