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Old 03-03-2010, 07:46 PM
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Default Aftermarket Air Filters- Oiled vs. Non Oiled.

I've used the search for previous and a ton of info, but no real data/feedback on which might be better or safer.

I know there are 2-3 popular aftermarkets intakes out there right now, some use the K&N and some the newer cone that is a dry material.

Is the final result of the oiled is that it will eventually mess up the MAF? I know others running the oiled K&N with no probs , or should I stay with that Synthamax "dry" material?

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K&N reps have stopped by here and stated over and over that they have tested thier product and never had any maf problems from them.

RL members claim they have had issues with them

some still run them

the K$N kit is a tin can piece of poor engineered junk.

EVOMS looks like a better system

stock is bullet proof, cheap and works
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I would never put an oiled air filter in my Honda, much less a Porsche! But that 's just me.
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The 928 guys say the K and N is good for a track car but not a DD. They say they do breath better but they also let larger particals in to the engine. They also complain about the oil/maf thing. honestly. How can not NOT ef up your MAF?

Would you rather breath through a dry filter or one wet with oil?
Old 03-03-2010, 10:58 PM
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Oil does not damage the MAF.
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I've run oiled K&N filters on three cars over the past 15 years. No MAF problems, no excess contamination in my oil analysis, and more power (at least on the one vehicle I dyno'd with and without it).
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
Oil does not damage the MAF.
... but only if it's NOT "Mobile water!"

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Run a K/N in every car Ive owned for the last 13yrs not a single Maf failure in any car. I think its a big scare tactic....silicone will ruin a maf, not oil.
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There's not a big debate on this. The freer flowing filters let a lot more particles into the engine. Does this happen? Absolutely. Does it bother you? Some say yes, some say no.
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Originally Posted by 150shot
but no real data/feedback on which might be better or safer.
Wrong there: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm

But again, it's all about your tolerances, and what you want to believe. If you'd like to run a K&N, there is ample anecdotal evidence to support whatever cognitive dissonance you need to manufacture to help you sleep at night.
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I had a K&N on a previous car, was there when I got it. Close to 13 years and 170k Km (105K miles). Accelerated engine wear? maybe, no MAF problems though.

Robert
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I've had MAFS fail on cars with paper filters. I've had cars with oiled filters that never had a problem. On the Porsche, there's an oiled filter on my EVOMS intake, and engine oil analysis every couple of years doesn't suggest there's any premature wear or intake impurities. It just doesn't seem worth worrying about, to me. The two things that are often absent from this debate are a) MAFS are consumables, and b) a lot of people over-oil their filters and then want someone to blame for the outcome. I just get mine serviced by someone who's less of an ***-hat with tools than I am.
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I like my filters like I like my women...oiled and ready to go!!
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Originally Posted by medtech
I like my filters like I like my women...oiled and ready to go!!
Easier acceleration?
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Originally Posted by medtech
I like my filters like I like my women...oiled and ready to go!!
Yeah, and they make that great noise, too.


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