Pac996

Just wondering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82rZk...eature=related

fpena944

Haven't had that happen to me yet, but I once was driving by a golf course and they had the sprinkler pointed towards the road. I didn't notice that and got drenched...

Robin 993DX

Not really because I own both.... I've only hit my head against the wall for buying the Ferrari.

Cefalu

Hi Robin, question for you... How well engineered do you think the Ferrari is? You call it the drama queen which makes me think it's temperamental. But Ferrari has the resources to get it right. Or is it a matter of they just don't care what it costs because if you have to worry about it, it's not the right car for you. Or?

I have never owned one, but damn they are good looking cars.

Pac996

I researched the ferrari while thinking about getting one and found there is a timing chain belt made of rubber or whatever material that needs to be services way more often than I'd like or the car goes out of ferrari certified maintenance blah blah blah.

Video reminds me of some dumb moves done looking at women.

Cefalu

The Italians like that rubber belt thing. It's cheaper and quiter than chains. I got rid of my Alfa GTV6 because of that stupid belt design. The rubber belt did not have enough timing belt "wrap" around the cam cogged wheels and some cars skipped teeth that led to, well, new engines, like an IMS failure.

Marc Gelefsky

It's not like you don't find the rubber timing belt in plenty of German cars, VW, Audi and Porsche to name a few..
Had a recently replaced timing belt fail in a Porsche once... Still have one of the bent valves on my desk.

frankfast

Because of noise regulations and economics, the day of the chain drive is disappearing. I don't think that there is anything wrong with belts as long as they are installed properly and replaced at manufacturers recommended intervals, same as chains. As a matter of fact, I think they are proven to last as long. I have one as a final drive on my bike and and I've replaced them on other bikes that use belts to drive cams. I've also had one replaced on my A4 at 120,000. No problem.

Jake Ok

But can your Porsche do this....LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AUPx...9E4C5A0369058A

I love this clip.

Cefalu

When you're laying down big money on a Porsche or a Ferrari, you would expect that the engine design wasn't too heavily compromised from a design perspective by economics. The rubber belt seems like an OK move for a VW or a Fiat, but when you are paying ten times as much, I don't think so. And the rubber belt is a no brainer choice in a non interefernace design. But in a high revving, high performance interferance design motor it seems like a questionable choice. I am guessing that's why Porsche stuck with the chains. Sure, chains break, but you hear about it way less often than timing belt breaks.

pissedpuppy

not bad driving there - fun clip

fpena944

Porsche did use belts on the 944 and 928 engines. And it is a mess if they ever break. But I'm glad chains are used on the flat-sixes.

Pac996

Manufacturers required interval to stay as a qualified car:
Camshaft timing belt(s) inspected, or replace at 3-5 years or every 15,00 miles
You know it's going to be replaced every 15,000 miles unless you want a destroyed engine. That would be every year since garage queen isn't my style.

Cost of pulling the engine for repair every year? Priceless!
Why own it if you aren't going to run the heck out of it?

geetee

Are all modern Fcars still belt? F430, 599's?

mclaudio

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I'm not sure, but I do know that some 996 drivers are Ferrari drivers...