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Old 08-16-2013, 07:03 AM
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You can get a couple MK1 996's for the same price as a late model 993 right now, and enjoy driving them daily, and they are great cars. When I look at it that way, I don't see the value in the 993. No way is it twice the car compared to the 996..collectible or not. Even if i wanted to spend 40K plus on a what for me is essentially a toy, I'd go 996 turbo before stepping back in time into 993.. but again that's just my preference.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
I strongly suggest you educate yourself a little more before making arrogant statements like these. The 928 engines when compared to the 911, are very robust. Nearly bulletproof under normal use. The Trust Bearing Faliure is not an engine design issue but a drive shaft issue. The crank oiling issue only shows up on extreme racing conditions (with R compound tires). The anutomatics are a shame but the 5-speeds (like mine) are a superrior machines. Had one for almost 15 years and with the supercharger it will suprise any near stock 996TT on the street. I peraonaly love the body shape. Look back to '77 and see how modern it looked, and still does, compared to any of the other super cars. The 928 had a huge potential but it was never developed by Porsche because of owners with 911 fog on their minds.
928 GTS made it on 5 Best Non-911 Porsche Production Cars list
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
fantastic. Just better have a big enough garage for all the oil that thing is going to drink.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jasper
KrazyK puts up the perfect example of how beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Right from day one the 993 turbo looked awkward to me. The rear fenders are too wide, and that heavy looking melted cheese looking tail is just the icing on the cake.

Boy I'm glad you like it dude, but it sure as shootin' isn't perfect styling. Way far from it....count me out.

The MkII 996 GT3 on the other hand. Now that's a looker.


Hey - Maybe the air cooled fanboys should ..you know...shuffle off to their own forum?
styling is subjective, so thats your perogative. That said, from everything said...well...anywhere, most people find the 993 and 993TT to be some of the best looking 911s built by porsche.

So, your opinion is valid but you are in the minority.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:31 AM
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I don't see the value in the 993
Your the only one.

I don't think anyone is trying to put the 996 TT, GT2, or GT3 into the same POS list that the M96 powered 996 is in. You can now buy a plain C2 996 in the $10K range which is really hard to believe but its happening. This isnt and wont ever happen with the 993.

Some of us are taking a lot of heat for stating the truth about the 996 but I once again reference the IMSB failure poll. Its actually over 10% now. Thats embarrassing for an $80,000+ car.

My 996 looks great, handles great, and is fun to drive. But,,, I know Im not the only one here that worries as they leave the garage. OK, is a chain going to snap, cylinder going to self destruct or score, IMSB, and on , and on. Hence its safer to just not use it except for a local run around town (cheaper tow bill).
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:35 AM
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screw this.... I'm gonna buy me a real car... something that gets respect .. like a K car or one of the old Renault alliances.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:40 AM
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screw this.... I'm gonna buy me a real car... something that gets respect .
Marc, you already have one Porsche that gets respect. (Your 930's worth more than your 996).
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by KrazyK
Marc, you already have one Porsche that gets respect. (Your 930's worth more than your 996).
My 86 is not a 930, It's a 3.2 Carrera. had it 19 years!

But in all seriousness about this unadulterated utterly worthless thread, I have been driving Porsche's for a long time and there have always been these conversations about all kinds of Porsche models. cars that got ZERO respect are now collectible.
I've had a few 944/951's, terrific cars! But back in those days not even considered a real Porsche. They had their issues, Timing belts, water pumps, springs on the clutch disks. I could go on. Man I loved my 944 Turbos!

There are Porsche owners that do not stress about headlight shapes, what people think and all that crap. Some of us just drive our cars and enjoy them for what they are. If there are weaknesses we do the what we can to be proactive. If ya cant handle that you should be driving another car.
These cars are cheap because they built crapload of them. Most of the people that buy them don't know an IMS from an IUD.

anyway, I gotta go look at a Pontiac Aztek I hear is for sale.
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:09 AM
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Let's keep it in perspective. All 911's are good looking...but this is beautiful...
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Old 08-16-2013, 12:26 PM
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For me, sharing parts with the Boxster was a Selling Point. After screwing around with quasi-unique European cars off and on for years when the only response is, "Hey, that part's out of production..." Sharing parts with the Boxster meant that parts would be made longer and would be cheaper. Excellent. My kind of car.
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Old 08-16-2013, 02:36 PM
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"Some of us just drive our cars and enjoy them for what they are. If there are weaknesses we do the what we can to be proactive. If ya cant handle that you should be driving another car."

Spot on!
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
That is because there are really only 4 non 911 Porsche production cars?

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Old 08-16-2013, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonzo911
Let's keep it in perspective. All 911's are good looking...but this is beautiful...
That is a really unique Ford Fusion coupe.concept - beautiful.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KrazyK
Your the only one.
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Apparently not.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:00 PM
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Apparently not.
Your seriously stating the 996 (not GT's) holds value better than the 993? What are yall smoking up there?
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