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Old 10-16-2013, 11:13 AM
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I went from an E36M3 to a 996C2 and it felt softer. Both are great DD's, but a 996.1 is going to be more along the lines of E36 interior and the 996.2 is more along the lines of E46.
Old 10-16-2013, 11:16 AM
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If your interested in a cab as a DD with the hard top I just listed my car this weekend on Craigslist and it looks like your also in PA. Send me an IM if your interested its a 99 45K miles, well maintained including IMS upgrade, new clutch, etc, etc within the last few years.

Its a great car and I hate to part with it but I need the money for a new business interest......then in a couple years I hope to step up to a 997 S.
Old 10-16-2013, 11:29 AM
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I tend to agree the with m3billy. E46 m3 is a better dual purpose car, easier to own and take it to the track...

Now the 911 (any variant imho) is not just how individual part of the car works or performs but how the sum of parts come together for experience. 911 (except for the latest Turbo IMHO agian) is never a car that wins best car of the year awards based on quantitative reasons but usually the overall experience. It the feedback, unique balance and driving characteristics that made me switch from my e36 m3 and 986 boxster to my current 996 c4s.

There are many cars that are faster, cost less and are easier to drive on a daily basis. There is usually only one wide hipped, unbalanced and emotionally engaging "yellow bomb" cruising down the highway as I drive to work. By the way I did not drive it to work today because it is at the shop getting a new clutch, rms, ims etc. you know the whole "I can sleep at night" package.
Old 10-16-2013, 01:44 PM
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The 996 is a better cruiser car than dual purpose car. The oiling system on the M96 is crap whereas your M3 already has dual pickup sump and an oil cooler from the factory, big radiator, and a finned differential. Its a nearly a race drivetrain for the street. The M96 with a X51 pan is not even close to one. To try and match it you would need a L&N oil filter kit, 3rd radiator, motorsport AOS, IMS bearing, better pump, and pray your sleeves don't fail, crack, or heads crack.

50/50 balance on the M3 is also way easier to drive at the limit than the 996 on track.
Why are you even on this site if you are so Bimmer biased?
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pszikla
Why are you even on this site if you are so Bimmer biased?
Pete
I'm beginning to wonder the same, I did not expect to be talked out of buying a 996. I appreciate all of your honesty though guys.
Old 10-16-2013, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pszikla
Why are you even on this site if you are so Bimmer biased?
Pete
I owned a 996 C2 (in between BMWs) and paid my Rennlist membership. There is nothing wrong putting my experience and membership to use.

If you'd like to pay me my Rennlist membership fee I will gladly leave.
Old 10-16-2013, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by M3BimmerBilly
50/50 balance on the M3 is also way easier to drive at the limit than the 996 on track.
Having owned over a dozen bimmers(4 M models), I tend to agree but when you do learn how to drive a 996, it will be a lot more rewarding.

I think the price is more than fair for someone looking to eventually mod their cars and also specifically looking for an aero model. Mods on these cars do not come cheap and if you are planning to eventually mod it, it's better to buy one with the mods already if the price is inline with other stock cars imo.
Old 10-16-2013, 06:01 PM
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Traded in my 01 E46 M:




For a 2003 C4S:




never looked back....and glad I made the move! What are you waiting for????
Old 10-16-2013, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Spokayman
+1 on this suggestion.

There is no better bang for the buck (Porsche-wise) than a 944. I would recommend an '89 or newer, preferably a 944S2.
I started out with 944s (3 of them over a period of years). Even though I now have a 996 Cab and a Cayman, I actually still miss the 944s.
Funny, only a few years ago I owned this combo. E46 M3 as a daily driver... 944 as a fun autocross/ track/ fun car. I'd trade my 996 to go back to that combo any day. I do agree with the above statements... while I don't want to talk you out of a 996 (it does have it's advantages over an E46 M3) make sure it's what you want. Test drive a bunch... read up on the problem areas. I was shopping for my second E46 M3 and due to availability here (not many coupe/ manuals for sale at the time) I opened up what I was looking for. While I don't fully regret it, I do love my 996... and have a lot of plans for it for me to love it even more, and give me a more rewarding "raw" feeling that I love. I can't say it's a better car overall than my M3 was.
Old 10-17-2013, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by M3BimmerBilly
I owned a 996 C2 (in between BMWs) and paid my Rennlist membership. There is nothing wrong putting my experience and membership to use. If you'd like to pay me my Rennlist membership fee I will gladly leave.
blah blah blah... Think I will join a bimmer forum and rag on them about their cars, even though I don't currently have one. And yes I've owned a BMW in between Porsches.
Old 10-17-2013, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveCarrera4
blah blah blah... Think I will join a bimmer forum and rag on them about their cars, even though I don't currently have one. And yes I've owned a BMW in between Porsches.
I've also owned a 997.1 C2, but didn't think it was worth mentioning since this is the 996 forum. Great car.

Waiting for the 997.2 with the DFI motor to come down in price and reduce my car fleet before I get one. The 9A1 engine appears to be pretty stout.
Old 10-18-2013, 12:37 AM
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The blue C4 aero I spoke about checks out to be awesome, and everything I could hope for. But I've decided to keep my E46 M3 instead. Eventually I will find my way to a Porsche, but for the time being I will sink some more preventative maintenance and mods into the ///M. Rod bearings, engine/trans mounts, headers, 200 cell cats, and some sway bars should help me forget about 996's for a little while. Thanks for all the help guys!
Old 10-18-2013, 12:51 PM
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Good luck with your M3!
If and when you change your mind for a P-car, we look forward to having you join the club!
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:19 PM
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122,000 miles is a lot of miles on that engine... get something with lower mileage - I would avoid it based on that alone - if you do buy it I say $16K
Old 10-22-2013, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by M3BimmerBilly
I've also owned a 997.1 C2, but didn't think it was worth mentioning since this is the 996 forum. Great car. Waiting for the 997.2 with the DFI motor to come down in price and reduce my car fleet before I get one. The 9A1 engine appears to be pretty stout.
in that case I wish to rescind my blahs.

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