Tires thread
#16
Sumitomos are cheap tires. Great for blasting through canyons, tearing them up, then throwing them out. Not exactly good for track days, not very informative to the driver, but a great value to go shred up.
#17
Race Director
I have Pirelli P-Zeros. Excellent tires. They do tend to wear relatively quickly, but that's the trade-off you always have with sticky tires. These are great for street or track.
Every review I have ever seen of the Michelin pilot sport has been excellent, too. Can't go wrong there.
Every review I have ever seen of the Michelin pilot sport has been excellent, too. Can't go wrong there.
#18
To the OP, though you said that wet traction isn't important in your case, the MPSSs are the best street tire I've ever used in the rain on track. Nothing else has even been close.
They do have soft sidewalls, though, and this means that when you start them soft, you'll have to spend your first lap deliberately stretching them to build the pressure you need, even though you have the grip.
Also, avoid R888s and the Nitto NT-01 for street use in my opinion. The noise is horrifying, and only gets worse as you wear them down.
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It's tread genius, the threads are on the inside!
#22
Drifting
#24
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Correct. I refuse to waste an "i" when not needed. I also refuse to waste all those superfluous "u's" you folks toss into words like "colour," "humour," and others. And, to spell "tires" as "tyres"? Absurd.
#25
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Dunlop ZII's are excellent tires for track days, autocross and also being able to be daily driven. They do have a very stiff sidewall though (great for crisp turn in, bad for bumps and road noise)
I did read that the BF Goodrich G-Force Rival's are great tires as well.
the last few years when I autocrossed the Dunlops Direzza star spec's were always within the top contenders for quickest street tires, if not the feastest. The ZII's are supposed to be even quicker, but from my experience are a little more of a sacrafice for comfort on the streets.
I've never liked tires that are compromises of everything. I always hated the Michelin Pilots... they are pretty good street tires, and have pretty good grip. For a daily driver, they are great tires but if you are planning on doing any sort of track days, or autocross you will quickly realize you really want the best in the street legal tire classes for overall grip. Are my ZII's great in the rain? they are ok, but are hydroplane prone. I accept some sacrifice in other areas to have one of the best in one area.
One thing about the dunlops is they are great tires for autocross because they work very well without much heat in them. I've read they can get a little greasy when really heated up. It depends how long your sessions are at track days I guess...
I did read that the BF Goodrich G-Force Rival's are great tires as well.
the last few years when I autocrossed the Dunlops Direzza star spec's were always within the top contenders for quickest street tires, if not the feastest. The ZII's are supposed to be even quicker, but from my experience are a little more of a sacrafice for comfort on the streets.
I've never liked tires that are compromises of everything. I always hated the Michelin Pilots... they are pretty good street tires, and have pretty good grip. For a daily driver, they are great tires but if you are planning on doing any sort of track days, or autocross you will quickly realize you really want the best in the street legal tire classes for overall grip. Are my ZII's great in the rain? they are ok, but are hydroplane prone. I accept some sacrifice in other areas to have one of the best in one area.
One thing about the dunlops is they are great tires for autocross because they work very well without much heat in them. I've read they can get a little greasy when really heated up. It depends how long your sessions are at track days I guess...
#26
LOL, I "realise" that you are over "analysing" this to death. Gotta run to the loo now. Better get Hurdi in here in the mean time...
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The spectrum from dual purpose to full-out race would start with Pilot Super Sports and Direzza star specs (although I heard the newer ones aren't as sticky as the originals), then there are some street tires that stretch the definition of "street" tire like the Rival, which is awesome in the dry but has very little tread depth and pretty much zero wet grip. After that you have stuff that is in the gray area between DOT R-comp and street tires, like the 888's, and Pilot Sport Cups which some people use as dual-purpose. There is no reason that I'm aware of that DOT R-comps won't pass an inspection since they are DOT approved, but I wouldn't drive on the street with them.
If you're never going to drive it in the rain, it's hard to go wrong with the Rivals. If you want something a bit more comfortable and has good wet grip as well, go with the Pilot Super Sports. If the Rivals aren't ballsy enough for you then you could try Pilot Sport Cups but I wouldn't.
If you're never going to drive it in the rain, it's hard to go wrong with the Rivals. If you want something a bit more comfortable and has good wet grip as well, go with the Pilot Super Sports. If the Rivals aren't ballsy enough for you then you could try Pilot Sport Cups but I wouldn't.
#29
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I'd probably go so far as to say that if your rear tires are NOT wearing on the inside, you have a more-conservative-than-standard alignment. I tried having my C4 aligned to save some tire wear a while back and the results were not impressive...an "emergency lane change" type maneuver felt incredibly sloppy with this kind of alignment so I put everything back to stock.
As far as the ExtremeContact DWS tires, I haven't been all that impressed with them. I run them on my BMW X5 because they're by far the cheapest tire available for it in a 315 width. I've got about 20k miles on them and the seem to be wearing fine. Since that's a lot heavier vehicle I'd expect them to do even better on a 996. I do think that going by treadwear ratings and all-season tires are the wrong choice for these cars, but to each their own.
As far as the ExtremeContact DWS tires, I haven't been all that impressed with them. I run them on my BMW X5 because they're by far the cheapest tire available for it in a 315 width. I've got about 20k miles on them and the seem to be wearing fine. Since that's a lot heavier vehicle I'd expect them to do even better on a 996. I do think that going by treadwear ratings and all-season tires are the wrong choice for these cars, but to each their own.
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