Blame Auto Trader for the 996 Prices
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Drifting
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Blame Auto Trader for the 996 Prices
While looking for a replacement P-car, saw this warning on Autotrader;
I lmao at this because it reminded me so much of the recent posts here. I cant believe even the staff at Auto Trader has piled on actually warning you about buying used 996's on their site. Interesting they would do that but its good for the buyers market I suppose.
At least for now, Porsche 996s are the unloved members of the 911 family, and can be picked up for as little as around $12,000. The introduction of liquid cooling didn't always produce reliable operation, and some early 996 models had a propensity for catastrophic engine failure (a trait also associated with early Boxster powerplants.)
#3
Three Wheelin'
Again, nothing from Auto trader post is false.
The 996s can be had for four digits right now. The price of the engine replacement is what is pushing the prices down and will continue doing so.
Right now, 996s entire value is in the ENGINE. If the car is running, it is worth $15-20k. The moment engine clunks, it is worth $4-5k.
The 996s can be had for four digits right now. The price of the engine replacement is what is pushing the prices down and will continue doing so.
Right now, 996s entire value is in the ENGINE. If the car is running, it is worth $15-20k. The moment engine clunks, it is worth $4-5k.
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KK, I really don't know why you're still here. You no longer have a 996 yet you still continue bashing the car on here. Are you still that bitter, or are you secretly a woman? Females are the ones that usually can't let go of grudges and turn bitter about things.
It's ironic that a guy so vocal against the 996 is the same guy that never had a failure. If anything Cuda at least had a broken motor to justify it.
Go find some other forum to pollute.
It's ironic that a guy so vocal against the 996 is the same guy that never had a failure. If anything Cuda at least had a broken motor to justify it.
Go find some other forum to pollute.
#6
Drifting
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Well Alpy, I think many have stayed here between selling and buying. In fact, I got so much info from the forum about my last P-car, I continue to be a paying member. Never said I wouldnt buy another 996 but it probably wont be a M96 NA whatever it is.
Posting an interesting item from the number one online auto selling business in the world is hardly pollution.
Posting an interesting item from the number one online auto selling business in the world is hardly pollution.
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OK found the article. I think you are taking things a little out of context. This is what they said about some other ones.
1970s-era 911s had a design flaw in their 2.7-liter engines, which saw shorter life spans and early rebuilds. That period led to the SC model's production from 1978 to 1983, which also had some weak spots in engine design, though those were more easily remedied by aftermarket fixes.
Porsche 964s had a few problem spots (including leaky engine seals)
The 993 period is beloved for its clean lines and the peak of air-cooled technology, while its follow-up, the 996, hasn't seen much love from collectors -- and therefore makes it a solid choice for more casual use, though it's highly recommended to have the engine checked out by a Porsche specialist. And while they are currently trading hands at surprisingly low prices (considering their high starting MSRP), 997-era 911s promise a high bang-for-buck ratio.
1970s-era 911s had a design flaw in their 2.7-liter engines, which saw shorter life spans and early rebuilds. That period led to the SC model's production from 1978 to 1983, which also had some weak spots in engine design, though those were more easily remedied by aftermarket fixes.
Porsche 964s had a few problem spots (including leaky engine seals)
The 993 period is beloved for its clean lines and the peak of air-cooled technology, while its follow-up, the 996, hasn't seen much love from collectors -- and therefore makes it a solid choice for more casual use, though it's highly recommended to have the engine checked out by a Porsche specialist. And while they are currently trading hands at surprisingly low prices (considering their high starting MSRP), 997-era 911s promise a high bang-for-buck ratio.
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I don't know about others, but I bought my 996 for the pure enjoyment of driving it knowing the pseudo-bad statistics. I never planned it to be an investment. If the engine goes - God forbid - I'll be bummed for sure, but no regrets!
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KK, I gotta ask. This is my last post after a 60 hour shift and I am tired, so take it with a grain of salt. First my statement of trying to be a nice guy. KK you have posted some helpful posts and I think over time we have bonded somewhat, but...
Do you do it on purpose or do you really not have a clue?
Do you do it on purpose or do you really not have a clue?
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KK, I gotta ask. This is my last post after a 60 hour shift and I am tired, so take it with a grain of salt. First my statement of trying to be a nice guy. KK you have posted some helpful posts and I think over time we have bonded somewhat, but...
Do you do it on purpose or do you really not have a clue?
Do you do it on purpose or do you really not have a clue?
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My 2 cents:
I'm new to the 996 world, three years without a sports car since selling my only Porsche (928), which I bought because it was cool and not highly valued thus making it affordable. I see the 996 as the same undervalued great car with the same potential for disaster that the 928 had.
I've read tons of the argument and decided to buy a 2003 C4S with just under 100,000 miles and the original IMS bearing in it.
It appears to be in good condition and comes from an owner that fixed everything immediately keeping records of service including had regular oil analysis done.
Total cost including flight out to buy and drive home- just under $24,000
It might go boom but most of them don't. And most that don't aren't talked about on the Internet...or at least their story isn't proportionately weighted in the 'realm of worry' that can thrive in a tech forum digital universe.
I can't wait to take delivery and I will not rush out to replace the IMS bearing, and yes I will retrofit it with the best option available if the tranny ever comes down for any reason or any warning signs appear. Seems like a logical thing to do, just like putting the 'bad reputation' in proper perspective and buying the car is logical to do. Great car, low price, manageable risk. What's not to love?
I'm new to the 996 world, three years without a sports car since selling my only Porsche (928), which I bought because it was cool and not highly valued thus making it affordable. I see the 996 as the same undervalued great car with the same potential for disaster that the 928 had.
I've read tons of the argument and decided to buy a 2003 C4S with just under 100,000 miles and the original IMS bearing in it.
It appears to be in good condition and comes from an owner that fixed everything immediately keeping records of service including had regular oil analysis done.
Total cost including flight out to buy and drive home- just under $24,000
It might go boom but most of them don't. And most that don't aren't talked about on the Internet...or at least their story isn't proportionately weighted in the 'realm of worry' that can thrive in a tech forum digital universe.
I can't wait to take delivery and I will not rush out to replace the IMS bearing, and yes I will retrofit it with the best option available if the tranny ever comes down for any reason or any warning signs appear. Seems like a logical thing to do, just like putting the 'bad reputation' in proper perspective and buying the car is logical to do. Great car, low price, manageable risk. What's not to love?
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Troll behavior is going on a forum about a specific thing and trashing that very thing. The reaction is some kind of affirmation for the troll. It's somewhere on the continuum between spraying graffiti tags and cutting oneself.
Don't feed the trolls.
Don't feed the trolls.