Driver's License and Old Age
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Two things: what does being able to drive a manual transmission have to do with anything? Most cars today are automatics of some sort. #2, at 65? Really? I would agree with 70 or 75, but certainly not 65. Full disclosure, I am 65, a CDI, and still do de events.
#3, ok, I lied, but I would be certainly be more concerned with drivers' physical limitations at any age. Let remember, a dl is a privilege, not a right.
#3, ok, I lied, but I would be certainly be more concerned with drivers' physical limitations at any age. Let remember, a dl is a privilege, not a right.
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I'M 73 and drive a Kenworth with a trailer in the city every day. I got a couple of V8 powered bikes that each have 400 HP that I ride all the time. I have to pass a physical every two years as a requirement to keep my commercial license, my blood pressure has to be lower than a commercial pilots which seems unbelievable but true. In any case I think anybody over the age of 60 should have to take the same medical. The medical is as important as a driving test and would eliminate those who are about to have a stroke or heart attack or who can't understand what the hell is going on around them. If a person 60 or over gets a moving violation then another driving test should be required before a license can be renewed. My most radical opinion of how to have safe highways no matter what the age of the driver is as follows.
When I was young people realized that the DRIVERS were the problem not the cars. Today all cars have air bags, seat belts, impact bumpers, turn signals, abs braking, rear view mirrors, padded dash, collapsible steering wheels, etc. The early cars didn't have this stuff. The drivers were expected to pay attention wether they were old or young. Since over time it was realized that the drivers were becoming used to better brakes and power steering and automatic transmissions and great sound systems driving was becoming very relaxed. Now the cars all look alike and are very safe but the drivers are even less attentive. Its almost impossible to drive for a whole week without seeing an accident, even a day is getting rare. Here is my idea to make the highways safe once more. I suggest that every car be equipped with a razor sharp RHINO HORN that extends from the horn button to about 3 inches from the drivers chest, the tip of the RHINO HORN would be dipped in Cuarie, a poison that is placed on the tips of arrows when the tribes hunted in Africa. If the poison coated nicks the drivers skin he will die almost instantly. As the number of bad drivers are eliminated from the highways they will become safe again and the manufactures will be able to have chrome bumpers and any design they want and the cars will once again look great and will be different from each other. Motorcylists who have had to put up with lousy drivers for decades will start to live longer. Just another idea from a guy most consider crazy but one that would work. I don't expect anybody will take this to seriously but its fun to think about.
When I was young people realized that the DRIVERS were the problem not the cars. Today all cars have air bags, seat belts, impact bumpers, turn signals, abs braking, rear view mirrors, padded dash, collapsible steering wheels, etc. The early cars didn't have this stuff. The drivers were expected to pay attention wether they were old or young. Since over time it was realized that the drivers were becoming used to better brakes and power steering and automatic transmissions and great sound systems driving was becoming very relaxed. Now the cars all look alike and are very safe but the drivers are even less attentive. Its almost impossible to drive for a whole week without seeing an accident, even a day is getting rare. Here is my idea to make the highways safe once more. I suggest that every car be equipped with a razor sharp RHINO HORN that extends from the horn button to about 3 inches from the drivers chest, the tip of the RHINO HORN would be dipped in Cuarie, a poison that is placed on the tips of arrows when the tribes hunted in Africa. If the poison coated nicks the drivers skin he will die almost instantly. As the number of bad drivers are eliminated from the highways they will become safe again and the manufactures will be able to have chrome bumpers and any design they want and the cars will once again look great and will be different from each other. Motorcylists who have had to put up with lousy drivers for decades will start to live longer. Just another idea from a guy most consider crazy but one that would work. I don't expect anybody will take this to seriously but its fun to think about.
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65 is the retirement age from working. That's the time a guy is eligible for Old Age Pension and the Government made that decision. Seems like common sense that 65 should be the same age for re testing drivers. If you are too old to work safely, you are too old to drive safely. So the Governments say. So let the Government do the re testing on a yearly basis. Makes sense to me. I have no fear that I would pass my re test and would be more than willing to take any test that the Government cares to sling my way. What say you other drivers over 65 years of age. Women should be re tested from 60 yrs onward.. I mean I have great difficulty holding my hand still as I put my lip stick on when looking in my rear view mirror hahaha.
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Social Security is currently optimized for retirees who begin taking benefits at 70. 65 is no longer the "official" retirement age...
http://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/delayret.html
You can start drawing benefits as early as 62, but you really burn a lot of your cat food and boxed wine money if you start benefits too early.
I'm not certain about the age at which lipstick becomes difficult to apply, so I'll defer to your knowledge on that matter.
http://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/delayret.html
You can start drawing benefits as early as 62, but you really burn a lot of your cat food and boxed wine money if you start benefits too early.
I'm not certain about the age at which lipstick becomes difficult to apply, so I'll defer to your knowledge on that matter.
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They may not have as many accidents but these stats don't account for how many accidents they've caused!! For example the hot blooded 20 year that is stuck behind some dawdling old codger for 10-15 miles then makes a poor choice on a pass out of frustration... just sayin!!
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I also think requiring people between 16-20 to retake the written and practical driving tests might not be a terrible idea, since younger people are far more likely to cause an accident than old people.
Drivers under 30 are more than 4x more likely to kill a pedestrian, bicyclist, or motorcyclist than drivers 70 and older.
Drivers under 30 are almost 6x more likely to cause the death of a passenger in their car compared to drivers 70+.
Drivers under 30 are twice as likely to cause their own death in a traffic accident compared to drivers 70 and above.
While the old folks can be scary as hell, they also tend to drive more slowly, and they are very unlikely to drive under the influence. The 16-30 year olds are responsible for a whole lot of carnage.
Drivers under 30 are more than 4x more likely to kill a pedestrian, bicyclist, or motorcyclist than drivers 70 and older.
Drivers under 30 are almost 6x more likely to cause the death of a passenger in their car compared to drivers 70+.
Drivers under 30 are twice as likely to cause their own death in a traffic accident compared to drivers 70 and above.
While the old folks can be scary as hell, they also tend to drive more slowly, and they are very unlikely to drive under the influence. The 16-30 year olds are responsible for a whole lot of carnage.
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Re: an other poster, since when does one become" dangerous to work" at 65 ? I call MAJOR BS! As a retired electrical contractor, I've been exposed to voltages up to approx. 15kv for years. I've was in trade for 35 years and obviously survived so far. I think because some have been exposed to a few bad " elderly" drivers, they want to lump all of us into this so called dangerous group. Think before you press that " enter" button.
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And yes, there should be. Driving with my grandfather for the last 15 years he had a license was terrifying. In his small town in NM, though, he knew everyone, and nobody wanted the guy to revoke/fail to renew his DL. Glad he didn't kill anyone...driving at 15mph in some situations can be as dangerous as driving 115.
My Mother still laments that we sold her car. When she was 80 years old my wife and I decided that it was no longer safe for her to drive. Her position was that she had been driving since I was born (1955) and she never had a ticket, an accident, or was ever stopped by the police. But she drove a maximum of 15 MPH and when drivers behind her would blow their horn she had this great response of "blow it out your *ss, I'm not going to get a speeding ticket". Whenever she complains about not having her car we just tell her that we are happy that she is till here to complain about it.
In the case of older drivers, I'd rather see common sense prevail be it on the part of the driver or family members to intervene.
I have a bigger issue with smart phones in the hands of dumb people behind the wheel - but that just leads me to a rant and rave session.............