Has IMS solutions ever failed
#61
Three Wheelin'
Incorrect. If a component fails the buck gets passed to me, no matter the reason. The shop is just buying a part and installing it, if that fails, then, they just say its not their fault.
Certified Installers follow a strict set of guidelines and they quickly lose their certification if they make a bad judgment call, whether if it leads to failure, or not.
Everything is my fault. Of the handful of bearing failures that we've seen (none of the IMS Solution!) the shop has never admitted to any mistakes or bad judgment calls being made. That includes the shop that had a technician tightening the center studs with an impact wrench, leading to both the bearings he retrofitted(Classic Single Row) failing within 300 miles of install.
The Certiified Installer has a lot to lose, so they take each installation seriously.
Certified Installers follow a strict set of guidelines and they quickly lose their certification if they make a bad judgment call, whether if it leads to failure, or not.
Everything is my fault. Of the handful of bearing failures that we've seen (none of the IMS Solution!) the shop has never admitted to any mistakes or bad judgment calls being made. That includes the shop that had a technician tightening the center studs with an impact wrench, leading to both the bearings he retrofitted(Classic Single Row) failing within 300 miles of install.
The Certiified Installer has a lot to lose, so they take each installation seriously.
So LN sells them and brands them but it's your fault if something goes wrong? What kind of dummy lawyer allowed you to sign that deal?
#62
Former Vendor
For most of my work I was simply paid by LN to be a developer, other projects started out as mine, and then were sold, so different technologies have different circumstances.
The system has been set up to promote these retrofits being done properly, and if every shop had to conform to the protocol that Certified Installers did, no failures of any technology would occur. There's never been a post- process failure that was carried out by a Certified Installer.
#63
Three Wheelin'
Legally its not my concern... But to gain leverage people will go to the guy with the best reputation and make their threats, and raise hell. I work with machines very well, people, not so much.
For most of my work I was simply paid by LN to be a developer, other projects started out as mine, and then were sold, so different technologies have different circumstances.
The system has been set up to promote these retrofits being done properly, and if every shop had to conform to the protocol that Certified Installers did, no failures of any technology would occur. There's never been a post- process failure that was carried out by a Certified Installer.
For most of my work I was simply paid by LN to be a developer, other projects started out as mine, and then were sold, so different technologies have different circumstances.
The system has been set up to promote these retrofits being done properly, and if every shop had to conform to the protocol that Certified Installers did, no failures of any technology would occur. There's never been a post- process failure that was carried out by a Certified Installer.
So how can you pull their certification if you're just a developer?
#65
The system has been set up to promote these retrofits being done properly, and if every shop had to conform to the protocol that Certified Installers did, no failures of any technology would occur. There's never been a post- process failure that was carried out by a Certified Installer.
If there are no failures in certified engines with good bearings and no evidence of failure, is replacing the bearing a waste of money?
What I would like to see in a perfect world is peace in the Middle East and the elimination of poverty, but if I can't have that, a real study comparing engines that passed a certification but continue with the stock bearing against engines with a retrofit and see if the failure rate would be different.
And "I know there would be more in the first group" is not an answer. No real reply is necessary. Just wondering.
#66
Former Vendor
Whats a waste of money, depends on who you ask. If you ask a group of people who have experienced failure, Vs a group that have good service from an OEM bearing, you will get much different responses.
The thread has veered way off course. The original poster asked if an IMS Solution units have failed. The answer to that is NONE.
The thread has veered way off course. The original poster asked if an IMS Solution units have failed. The answer to that is NONE.
#67
Race Director
For reference, some of us haters are adequately informed. My hate for your posts is driven solely by your incessant, childlike need to enumerate your biases against the 996 / M96.
You also seem to operate under the delusion that repeatedly sucking up to Jake somehow lends you credibility. I missed the thread containing Jake's reply to you, but it must have read something like, "Dang, KrazyK, you are RIGHT ON THE MONEY with your assertions and interpretations of what I've written. I am struck dumb with awe!" If you could link to that thread, I'd appreciate it.
You sold your 996. Move on. This forum is intended for owners and/or enthusiasts, and you're neither.
#68
Rennlist Member
" That includes the shop that had a technician tightening the center studs with an impact wrench, leading to both the bearings he retrofitted(Classic Single Row) failing within 300 miles of install."
This is just classic! I think the use of the title "technician" in this case is a little loose... I think "Monkey" would be more fitting...(though maybe a little unfair to monkeys...)
This is just classic! I think the use of the title "technician" in this case is a little loose... I think "Monkey" would be more fitting...(though maybe a little unfair to monkeys...)
#69
What I find amusing in an ironic sort of way is people are joyous over spending thousands to pimp out their car with cosmetic accessories, yet agonize endlessly over a $600 part to hedge against an 8% chance of catastrophic engine failure.
#70
Former Vendor
" That includes the shop that had a technician tightening the center studs with an impact wrench, leading to both the bearings he retrofitted(Classic Single Row) failing within 300 miles of install."
This is just classic! I think the use of the title "technician" in this case is a little loose... I think "Monkey" would be more fitting...(though maybe a little unfair to monkeys...)
This is just classic! I think the use of the title "technician" in this case is a little loose... I think "Monkey" would be more fitting...(though maybe a little unfair to monkeys...)
That "monkey" was a Porsche Gold Level Master Technician! Doesn't mean a damn thing to me, and never has.
What I find amusing in an ironic sort of way is people are joyous over spending thousands to pimp out their car with cosmetic accessories, yet agonize endlessly over a $600 part to hedge against an 8% chance of catastrophic engine failure.
If it makes the car look or sound a certain way, people will buy it. If it keeps the heart of the vehicle from failing, rendering all the other junk useless, people are reserved about it. I hate bling, and things that are added for no practical benefit, thats why I founded a technology company, not a fashion company.
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I hope you don't have any children.
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There are certified installers near enough to most owners that if a decision is made to install the "solution" or even the ceramic bearings why not use them. Do they cost more? If so how much more? To be certified the shop owner or mechanic had to attend one of Jakes classes, that alone is evidence that the shop was serious and wanted to do the best job they could, why not take advantage of that?
I needed to tow mine two hours to the nearest certified installer, besides it was already in the shop. I don't see anything wrong with your argument though.
However, having seen what's involved I am more than comfortable my mechanic can easily do this job. There's absolutely no need to tow it to any facility.
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It's not $600, even the parts costs a bit more but then there's the labor. I don't think anyone will do it for much cheaper than $2500 total (mine was more, I'm just guessing the minimum to be that much).
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IMS discussion can indeed lead to all sorts of conclusions...it's unreal....I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and relax.
P.S: I know it's not directed at me, but Im just saying...but whatever...it's just a car.
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Baby was in reference to a car but I had to throw in the last sentence for the additional jab that I'm used to giving KK all the time. After all I'd like to think I had a small part in him quitting these forums for awhile before rejoining.