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Old 03-14-2017, 08:06 PM
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Default What are the benefits of porting heads?

I have my M96 engine apart and was considering porting the heads. Would this be beneficial or really not worth it?

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Short answer is better airflow. The engine is an air pump, the more air the more power. However only porting the heads usually won't net power gains and can often times hurt performance. Porting should only be done with someone who knows what they are doing, on a flow bench, and matched to the intake and exhaust. Cams play a big roll as well, as if you don't have a cam that can take advantage of your porting you've done nothing except burn a hole in your pocket.
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Not sure what effect porting would have on this specific engine. I'd certainly be very careful and get expert weigh-in before doing it.
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Originally Posted by MoeMonney
I have my M96 engine apart and was considering porting the heads. Would this be beneficial or really not worth it?

Thoughts?
As m3driver said better (intake) air flow and better exhaust flow.

Trouble is the intake and exhaust ports represent just a portion of the path intake air follows on its way into the chamber and then the exhaust on its way out.

You are probably better off just making sure where the intake air enters the intake port from the intake manifold runner there is no step or ridge and likewise on the other side that there is no step or ridge from where the exhaust gas leaves the port and enters the exhaust manifold.

'course, you can do a general smoothing of the intake and exhaust ports not really changing the shape or enlarging the port.

But this is a lot of work -- speaking as someone who did this for single and multi-cylinder motorcycle engine heads -- for not much real gain.

I mean generally the intake and exhaust port surfaces ain't that rough to begin with.

But ridges/steps at the transition from the intake runner of the intake manifold to the intake port in the head and ridges/steps at the transition from the exhaust port to the exhaust manifold, these can be very real and sometimes quite pronounced.
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Originally Posted by Macster
As m3driver said better (intake) air flow and better exhaust flow.

Trouble is the intake and exhaust ports represent just a portion of the path intake air follows on its way into the chamber and then the exhaust on its way out.

You are probably better off just making sure where the intake air enters the intake port from the intake manifold runner there is no step or ridge and likewise on the other side that there is no step or ridge from where the exhaust gas leaves the port and enters the exhaust manifold.

'course, you can do a general smoothing of the intake and exhaust ports not really changing the shape or enlarging the port.

But this is a lot of work -- speaking as someone who did this for single and multi-cylinder motorcycle engine heads -- for not much real gain.

I mean generally the intake and exhaust port surfaces ain't that rough to begin with.

But ridges/steps at the transition from the intake runner of the intake manifold to the intake port in the head and ridges/steps at the transition from the exhaust port to the exhaust manifold, these can be very real and sometimes quite pronounced.
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I went from 32hp to 65hp on my Honda 450x with a port job, a different yr factory Honda cam and an aftermarket exhaust....there may or may not be potential left in the head.
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Must read. Chat with Len at Hoffman Automotive. He did some port work for my m96 3.8 LN build.

https://newsite.hamheads.com/2016/11...age-m96m979a1/
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
Must read. Chat with Len at Hoffman Automotive. He did some port work for my m96 3.8 LN build.

https://newsite.hamheads.com/2016/11...age-m96m979a1/
Interesting read. Basically sums up that it was little to no benefit porting the M96 heads.
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Yup - Len rebuilt my heads as well and did his Stage 1 job, which I believe was just cleaning up the bowls and polishing. Not too expensive, and he recommended not doing any more than that.
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Originally Posted by MoeMonney
Interesting read. Basically sums up that it was little to no benefit porting the M96 heads.
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by MoeMonney
Interesting read. Basically sums up that it was little to no benefit porting the M96 heads.
That pretty much goes with this engine in general. Most agree, "buy a Turbo" if you want more power.
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
Must read. Chat with Len at Hoffman Automotive. He did some port work for my m96 3.8 LN build.

https://newsite.hamheads.com/2016/11...age-m96m979a1/
Good thing they updated the article regarding the valve seat issue as that's what happened to my engine after tracking it for a year or so.
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Anyone want to see my bifurcated runners?
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porting gets air in and out faster,it is a serious mod that works with other serious mods. unless you can see/feel casting ,misalignment issues with the ports/runners fuggetaboutit on a light modded street motor
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Originally Posted by extanker
porting gets air in and out faster,it is a serious mod that works with other serious mods. unless you can see/feel casting ,misalignment issues with the ports/runners fuggetaboutit on a light modded street motor
And if you add some ridges / scalps it will create more air velocity


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