New kid on the block
#1
Rennlist Member
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New kid on the block
I am very interested in the 996 GT3 (I've noted this term 6-GT3, or 6GT3 what does that mean? is this lingo?), please advise on what I should read about regarding history, production numbers, performance, model year differences, things to look out for when purchasing and how much should one pay for a very good example. I won't be tracking the car and it won't be a daily driver. I am a former '87 911 Targa and Coupe owner and current owner of a 1989 951 and 2011 987.2 Boxster Spyder. Thank you in advance.
#2
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6-GT3 or 6GT3 is just another way of saying 996 GT3.
Some good threads about production numbers;
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...d-996-gt3.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...n-numbers.html
Things to look out for when buying...
-DME Report, number of type 2 over revs and how long ago they happened. Type 1 not really important.
-Coolant pipes; welded, pinned or still original. Welding the pipes is an engine out service. Pinning can be done with engine in the car. In my opinion, welding is the only permanent fix.
-Options; the only major thing in particular is if it has PCCB's (yellow calipers) or standard brakes (red calipers). PCCB's can be converted to steel rotors. PCCB's are $$$.
-Limited slip; the stock one doesn't last long, this is more important for a car that sees track, not as important for a street only.
-Suspension; stock rear toe links can wear, causing excessive tire wear and not so great handling characteristics.
-Tires; a new set of PS2's in stock sizes will set you back over a $1k. Stock rears are an unusual size, so very limited options. You can size up / down for more tire options.
-Typical 996 issues; a 90's Camry has a better interior.
We have had some similar cars... i had a few 944's over a 10+ year period. My last was an '88 951 that ended up with a 5.7 LS1. I have a '88 Carrera also. Of all the cars i have owned, the 6-GT3 is on a completely different level.
Some good threads about production numbers;
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...d-996-gt3.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...n-numbers.html
Things to look out for when buying...
-DME Report, number of type 2 over revs and how long ago they happened. Type 1 not really important.
-Coolant pipes; welded, pinned or still original. Welding the pipes is an engine out service. Pinning can be done with engine in the car. In my opinion, welding is the only permanent fix.
-Options; the only major thing in particular is if it has PCCB's (yellow calipers) or standard brakes (red calipers). PCCB's can be converted to steel rotors. PCCB's are $$$.
-Limited slip; the stock one doesn't last long, this is more important for a car that sees track, not as important for a street only.
-Suspension; stock rear toe links can wear, causing excessive tire wear and not so great handling characteristics.
-Tires; a new set of PS2's in stock sizes will set you back over a $1k. Stock rears are an unusual size, so very limited options. You can size up / down for more tire options.
-Typical 996 issues; a 90's Camry has a better interior.
We have had some similar cars... i had a few 944's over a 10+ year period. My last was an '88 951 that ended up with a 5.7 LS1. I have a '88 Carrera also. Of all the cars i have owned, the 6-GT3 is on a completely different level.
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porschedog (10-31-2019)
#3
If you won't be tracking the car at all, you might consider other vehicles in this price range. 6-3 really is a track weapon and it doesn't shine (as much) as a (once in a) weekend cruiser. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car, but there are a lot of cars with the same DNA but better usability. You can get a pretty good 997.2 S, or a 991.1 base. The interior of the 997/991 are leaps and bounds beyond the 996. By today's standards, the 6-3 is still above average, but there are lots of cars with the same (or better) specs - for 1/2 the money. So, the folks that have 6-3's have them for a reason. And more often than not, that's the track.
As 6-3 info, there are a pile of threads here on purchasing, PPI, DME reports and the key/useful upgrades to the car. The Duck listed some good areas to research. There is also a sticky on must read threads in this forum.
-td
As 6-3 info, there are a pile of threads here on purchasing, PPI, DME reports and the key/useful upgrades to the car. The Duck listed some good areas to research. There is also a sticky on must read threads in this forum.
-td
I am very interested in the 996 GT3 (I've noted this term 6-GT3, or 6GT3 what does that mean? is this lingo?), please advise on what I should read about regarding history, production numbers, performance, model year differences, things to look out for when purchasing and how much should one pay for a very good example. I won't be tracking the car and it won't be a daily driver. I am a former '87 911 Targa and Coupe owner and current owner of a 1989 951 and 2011 987.2 Boxster Spyder. Thank you in advance.
#4
Racer
I am very interested in the 996 GT3 (I've noted this term 6-GT3, or 6GT3 what does that mean? is this lingo?), please advise on what I should read about regarding history, production numbers, performance, model year differences, things to look out for when purchasing and how much should one pay for a very good example. I won't be tracking the car and it won't be a daily driver. I am a former '87 911 Targa and Coupe owner and current owner of a 1989 951 and 2011 987.2 Boxster Spyder. Thank you in advance.
I'd agree with Himself and add that these cars really come alive at speeds and g-forces that are criminal on the street. Mine's black so as a "fun street car" it doesn't get much attention - there are better flashy cars for the money. When I just weekend drive mine (as I've done this past year), I doubt why I keep it vs another more civilized, usable 911 (997.2 GTS or C4S or TT or TTS). Then I look into the future and see me slapping myself with regret because it will be difficult/impossible to get back into one. Maybe my answer is 996 Cup plus the weekend 911.. but until I have more space it's wrapped up in one
Just my 2c - good luck with your search.
#5
Rennlist Member
If you won't be tracking the car at all, you might consider other vehicles in this price range. 6-3 really is a track weapon and it doesn't shine (as much) as a (once in a) weekend cruiser. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car, but there are a lot of cars with the same DNA but better usability. You can get a pretty good 997.2 S, or a 991.1 base. The interior of the 997/991 are leaps and bounds beyond the 996. By today's standards, the 6-3 is still above average, but there are lots of cars with the same (or better) specs - for 1/2 the money. So, the folks that have 6-3's have them for a reason. And more often than not, that's the track.
As 6-3 info, there are a pile of threads here on purchasing, PPI, DME reports and the key/useful upgrades to the car. The Duck listed some good areas to research. There is also a sticky on must read threads in this forum.
-td
As 6-3 info, there are a pile of threads here on purchasing, PPI, DME reports and the key/useful upgrades to the car. The Duck listed some good areas to research. There is also a sticky on must read threads in this forum.
-td
The only other reason you might want to consider the GT3 is if, like me, you really feel a "sports car" should be a raw experience. Modern sports cars, while ridiculously capable, are loaded with too many creature comforts and a plush ride. I make a joke about the car in the rain that it sounds like you are sitting in a steel garden shed amidst a downpour. The interior insulation is minimal compared to other street cars. While mine is mostly street, I still thrash it around on the autocross course when I can.
I would not consider a GT3 much of an investment potential, but it will hold its value better than other cars and they are reliable for what they are.
#7
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OP, settle in on your favorite couch with your dog and a beverage or three handy. Read these posts and you'll soon get a better appreciation and understanding of the wonderful & magnificent and seriously fun 996 GT3. Grab some snacks, too.