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Old 01-14-2024, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rodneyr
... Keep it simple. Pagid Endurance pads, SRF brake fluid, good tires and a good alignment. The alignment will make the biggest difference especially since the car is very sensitive to the alignment.
THIS !!
Keep it simple.

Sounds like the car is due for new shocks that will help to make the car livelier than you are currently experiencing it. A properly setup and rose-jointed 996GT3 will be infiinitely more "playful" that the Turbo S that you have enjoyed. The 996GT3 may not be fastest but certainly the more "danceable" and entertaining car. Getting better acquainted with getting around the track in a manual is important to getting that "planted" feel into and through the corner.
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Originally Posted by spiller
I have been reading a bit lately about RS wheel carrier upgrades for the 996 GT3. I’m sure there’s some benefit there however I think that’s looking for the last half a tenth, maybe even 100th. The 996 cup geometry is so wrong, and the ride height is much, much lower than what anyone would ever run in their street/track 996 GT3, yet they are a beautiful car to drive on the limit when the set up is dialed in. Call me skeptical, or maybe even ignorant, but I just don’t buy the (expensive) need for RS wheel carriers in 9.9/10 cases of people tracking their 996 based cars. This was an upgrade done by Porsche for the purpose of extended front tyre life in endurance racing, at least as Andy Prueninger put it anyway.

OP as you said seat time is key.
I would only add to this that the 996 RS behaves well on the limit, so you are more than comfortable taking it there as a result... sometimes tooo comfortable,yes I'm guilty of over driving it.
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Old 01-14-2024, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spiller;[url=tel:19218118
19218118[/url]]I have been reading a bit lately about RS wheel carrier upgrades for the 996 GT3. I’m sure there’s some benefit there however I think that’s looking for the last half a tenth, maybe even 100th. The 996 cup geometry is so wrong, and the ride height is much, much lower than what anyone would ever run in their street/track 996 GT3, yet they are a beautiful car to drive on the limit when the set up is dialed in. Call me skeptical, or maybe even ignorant, but I just don’t buy the (expensive) need for RS wheel carriers in 9.9/10 cases of people tracking their 996 based cars. This was an upgrade done by Porsche for the purpose of extended front tyre life in endurance racing, at least as Andy Prueninger put it anyway.

OP as you said seat time is key.
Yeah I agree, especially with just an enthusiast/hobbiest like me. Maximizing the current suspension geometry should be plenty for me. I’ll do it over time as I get more used to the car on track.


Old 01-15-2024, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Astrix
I would only add to this that the 996 RS behaves well on the limit, so you are more than comfortable taking it there as a result... sometimes tooo comfortable,yes I'm guilty of over driving it.
Big kudos for actually using an RS for what it was intended for mate!
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Old 01-15-2024, 07:18 PM
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Car looks great!! White is the best on these cars but I'm biassed. Let me know when you are ready to dial in the suspension. The JRZ RS3 Pros will be an eye opener for you when you are really. For the time being, learn the car and have fun!

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Originally Posted by spiller
I have been reading a bit lately about RS wheel carrier upgrades for the 996 GT3. I’m sure there’s some benefit there however I think that’s looking for the last half a tenth, maybe even 100th. The 996 cup geometry is so wrong, and the ride height is much, much lower than what anyone would ever run in their street/track 996 GT3, yet they are a beautiful car to drive on the limit when the set up is dialed in. Call me skeptical, or maybe even ignorant, but I just don’t buy the (expensive) need for RS wheel carriers in 9.9/10 cases of people tracking their 996 based cars. This was an upgrade done by Porsche for the purpose of extended front tyre life in endurance racing, at least as Andy Prueninger put it anyway.

OP as you said seat time is key.
The Motorsport RS wheel carriers are a game changer for a serious track set up and allow the car to be set up at a lower ride height. The benefit becomes noticeable when the car is driven at the limit making it much more composed and predictive. "Calm" is a word that comes to mind. It becomes even more evident on high hp applications. I'm not sure one would see much of a difference on a 996GT3 driven at 7 or 8/10s however.

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Originally Posted by powdrhound;[url=tel:19220751
19220751[/url]]Car looks great!! White is the best on these cars but I'm biassed. Let me know when you are ready to dial in the suspension. The JRZ RS3 Pros will be an eye opener for you when you are really. For the time being, learn the car and have fun!

Cheers,
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Yyyeah!! I’ll for sure be in touch. Thanks for all the help you’ve provided to not just me but everyone!!
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Originally Posted by powdrhound
The Motorsport RS wheel carriers are a game changer for a serious track set up and allow the car to be set up at a lower ride height. The benefit becomes noticeable when the car is driven at the limit making it much more composed and predictive. "Calm" is a word that comes to mind. It becomes even more evident on high hp applications. I'm not sure one would see much of a difference on a 996GT3 driven at 7 or 8/10s however.
I've the full set to go on mine (with all the misc. sundries and small pieces) and let me tell you, it's NOT cheap.

But it's cheaper than an RS, put it that way.
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Old 01-16-2024, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by philrob1
I've the full set to go on mine (with all the misc. sundries and small pieces) and let me tell you, it's NOT cheap.

But it's cheaper than an RS, put it that way.
At the end of the day none of this makes sense but we do it anyway and enjoy it nonetheless. I'm currently in the process of getting a sequential gearbox for the car and although certainly also NOT cheap, it's something simply too cool NOT to do...

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Old 01-16-2024, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by powdrhound
At the end of the day none of this makes sense but we do it anyway and enjoy it in the process. I'm in the process of getting a sequential gearbox for the car and although certainly also NOT cheap, it's something simply too cool NOT to do...
My thought process exactly behind doing the RS kinematics. For me, it is an element of what I would consider "my" perfect GT3.

I must also thank you for your help you gave me with regards to part numbers & the photographs you've posted being an invaluable help
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Originally Posted by philrob1
My thought process exactly behind doing the RS kinematics. For me, it is an element of what I would consider "my" perfect GT3.

I must also thank you for your help you gave me with regards to part numbers & the photographs you've posted being an invaluable help
Glad to help, anytime.


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Originally Posted by powdrhound
Glad to help, anytime. For those hardcore junkies that haven't seen the pics, this is the holy grail track set up for these cars, OEM RS carriers / RSR control arms / JRZ Motorsport 12 series dampers.



Incredible hardware. I've gone for a mix of OEM Porsche and Porsche Motorsport. The Motorsport inner monoball for the LCA are surprisingly reasonably priced but the outer cast arms are ridiculously priced for what they are. But I guess that's the price you pay for knowing you can rely on your trunnion pin....!

Ive got Intrax coilovers to fit to mine. I've heard good things about JRZ but the Intrax support, being in Europe, it superb - and my experience of Intrax on M3s is that they are a phenomenal setup
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Originally Posted by powdrhound
The Motorsport RS wheel carriers are a game changer for a serious track set up and allow the car to be set up at a lower ride height. The benefit becomes noticeable when the car is driven at the limit making it much more composed and predictive. "Calm" is a word that comes to mind.
This confirms my thoughts!

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Old 01-16-2024, 08:55 PM
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I need to find some rear rs uprights to match my fronts. Lmk if anyone sees a used set floating around.
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Originally Posted by philrob1
Incredible hardware. I've gone for a mix of OEM Porsche and Porsche Motorsport. The Motorsport inner monoball for the LCA are surprisingly reasonably priced but the outer cast arms are ridiculously priced for what they are. But I guess that's the price you pay for knowing you can rely on your trunnion pin....!

Ive got Intrax coilovers to fit to mine. I've heard good things about JRZ but the Intrax support, being in Europe, it superb - and my experience of Intrax on M3s is that they are a phenomenal setup
Is the front subframe the same on all 996 cars?
Also,does anyone know if the 997 front subframe would fit a 996, I think the front tub floor may be a little different
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