Time to take it off the track?
#1
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Time to take it off the track?
Time to take it off the track?
Bought in 2014 with 11K miles and track mods already done (LWFW, Cup Clutch, suspension bits, euro buckets, 1/2 cage, guards diff) for $69. Last year suspension work with KWV3 and engine out service (all rubber and plastic bits).
now with 46k miles. About 6 track days/year and drive to work 3-4 days/month on average.
A couple of the other guys with 996 GT threes who have been on track have now been putting them away and getting other cars for their track days. Hate to do it, but getting a bit nervous about continuing to drive on the track.
They have suggested keeping it for rare use, keep it safe, get something else like a 2014 Cayman S to play around on the track and drive more daily..
Hopefully flames this question will be at minimum, really curious to hear what y’all think
Bought in 2014 with 11K miles and track mods already done (LWFW, Cup Clutch, suspension bits, euro buckets, 1/2 cage, guards diff) for $69. Last year suspension work with KWV3 and engine out service (all rubber and plastic bits).
now with 46k miles. About 6 track days/year and drive to work 3-4 days/month on average.
A couple of the other guys with 996 GT threes who have been on track have now been putting them away and getting other cars for their track days. Hate to do it, but getting a bit nervous about continuing to drive on the track.
They have suggested keeping it for rare use, keep it safe, get something else like a 2014 Cayman S to play around on the track and drive more daily..
Hopefully flames this question will be at minimum, really curious to hear what y’all think
#2
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I'll start. I love my GT3. I street drive it regularly and track it regularly. I don't enjoy it nearly as much on the street as I do on the track. It's fine on the street, but it comes alive on the track. If I didn't track at all, I doubt I'd have kept it long term. To me, it's a physical mechanical thing, so what is the point in not using it to the fullest of ones comfort level? I can't take it with me and why save the best it has to offer for someone else? I do have a dedicated race car as well, so when I do track it I am making a conscious decision to do so. I'm in the DMV and within 4 hours of a few really great tracks. Each time I drive any of these tracks in the GT3 I feel the difference in the motorsports focused platform compared to my converted race car, which is a 99 996 C2. That said, I am cognizant of the rising values of the GT3 and carefully choose which tracks, events, and clubs where I run the GT3. I dial it back a bit and I get track insurance. All that said, it's a personal decision and based on ones own risk tolerance. I just know that I, personally, wouldn't be happy only puttering around in the streets with the 996 GT3 especially as I have a few track mods (coilovers, upgraded diff, GT3 seats, etc...). Maybe if it was purely stock? Maybe. But again, to me, there is something magical about playing with this car on the limit (my limit as it's limits exceed my capabilities) at the track and there is no way I could come close to that on the street. Just one man's opinion.
-KJ
-KJ
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I haven't tracked my GT3, but I fully intend to. As a road car (on UK roads, at least), I find it severely compromised and in some instances, pointless. You can't really enjoy that engine without driving on the aggressive side and that's not a sensible thing to do.
When I do track mine, it will be fully insured for each event - and that's just a cost associated with playing this game. The tracks I do will be limited also; sticking to GP tracks and those with big run-off - IE - NOT Nurburgring.
I've had M3s of various generations, and a Noble - everytime I was on track with these it's because at that point in time, I couldn't afford a GT3.
When I do track mine, it will be fully insured for each event - and that's just a cost associated with playing this game. The tracks I do will be limited also; sticking to GP tracks and those with big run-off - IE - NOT Nurburgring.
I've had M3s of various generations, and a Noble - everytime I was on track with these it's because at that point in time, I couldn't afford a GT3.
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I have enjoyed tracking both my GT3 and cup over the past few years since owning both. Perhaps it’s silly to use a valuable road car on the track when the cup is so much better in every way, safer and less financial set back if you have a ***** up. However, I’ve usually throughly enjoyed my days on track with my road car and it’s the better car to use when tracking with buddies as the cup car is a bit anti-social (requires a bit more fiddling, on/off trailer etc). Having said all of that, I’ve made a conscious decision to no longer track my road car due to witnessing some large incidents lately and seeing the eye watering repair costs of these cars. It’s disappointing because as the OP said, these cars really need to be used on track to experience them to their full potential and you don’t come close with road use alone.
Those who are purchasing insurance…what are you paying and what is covered?
Those who are purchasing insurance…what are you paying and what is covered?
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I'd keep tracking it. You have access to a few nice tracks where you live and the 996 GT3 is such a great track car. Just be a little cautious and stay away from the yahoos.
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I do have a blast both on the street and track with it. Thinking I’ll keep enjoying and, as stated- do
my best to avoid the yahoos!
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Time to take it off the track?
Bought in 2014 with 11K miles and track mods already done (LWFW, Cup Clutch, suspension bits, euro buckets, 1/2 cage, guards diff) for $69. Last year suspension work with KWV3 and engine out service (all rubber and plastic bits).
now with 46k miles. About 6 track days/year and drive to work 3-4 days/month on average.
A couple of the other guys with 996 GT threes who have been on track have now been putting them away and getting other cars for their track days. Hate to do it, but getting a bit nervous about continuing to drive on the track.
They have suggested keeping it for rare use, keep it safe, get something else like a 2014 Cayman S to play around on the track and drive more daily..
Hopefully flames this question will be at minimum, really curious to hear what y’all think
Bought in 2014 with 11K miles and track mods already done (LWFW, Cup Clutch, suspension bits, euro buckets, 1/2 cage, guards diff) for $69. Last year suspension work with KWV3 and engine out service (all rubber and plastic bits).
now with 46k miles. About 6 track days/year and drive to work 3-4 days/month on average.
A couple of the other guys with 996 GT threes who have been on track have now been putting them away and getting other cars for their track days. Hate to do it, but getting a bit nervous about continuing to drive on the track.
They have suggested keeping it for rare use, keep it safe, get something else like a 2014 Cayman S to play around on the track and drive more daily..
Hopefully flames this question will be at minimum, really curious to hear what y’all think
I have enjoyed tracking both my GT3 and cup over the past few years since owning both. Perhaps it’s silly to use a valuable road car on the track when the cup is so much better in every way, safer and less financial set back if you have a ***** up. However, I’ve usually throughly enjoyed my days on track with my road car and it’s the better car to use when tracking with buddies as the cup car is a bit anti-social (requires a bit more fiddling, on/off trailer etc). Having said all of that, I’ve made a conscious decision to no longer track my road car due to witnessing some large incidents lately and seeing the eye watering repair costs of these cars. It’s disappointing because as the OP said, these cars really need to be used on track to experience them to their full potential and you don’t come close with road use alone.
Those who are purchasing insurance…what are you paying and what is covered?
Those who are purchasing insurance…what are you paying and what is covered?
Plenty of insurance threads on RL if you search
Impossible to stay away from the yahoos, they will find you
#9
The GT3 is meant to be tracked.
Can you afford to bin it?
Can you afford to bin it?
#10
I still very much enjoy driving mine on the track. That said, I have a dedicated race/track car (NC MX-5 cup clone) that see's the majority of my track miles. It is not much slower than the gt3. 8 Seconds around COTA and only 2 around my slower local track.
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Original owner here. Have had my 996.2 since 2004 and started tracking immediately. Rarely drove it on streets, but did drive it back and forth from multiple track venues on East Coast. Initially stock except for seats, roller, harnesses and brakes. Upgraded suspension over time and continued tracking car until 2016 when I got a GT4. Shared track duties then but probably 75% GT4. Got new 991.2 GT3 in 2018 that took over track duty and 996 was rarely used. Sold GT4 in 2020 and then moved on from 991.2 last year. I now track 996.2 exclusively with track suspension. Only drive back and forth from Lime Rock. Other tracks car gets transported.
996.2 is a phenomenal track car. It comes alive like none other. I plan on tracking it for next few years until my new 992.2 comes in.
I would continue to track it occasionally as otherwise not sure what else that car is good for. :-)
chet
996.2 is a phenomenal track car. It comes alive like none other. I plan on tracking it for next few years until my new 992.2 comes in.
I would continue to track it occasionally as otherwise not sure what else that car is good for. :-)
chet
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Original owner here. Have had my 996.2 since 2004 and started tracking immediately. Rarely drove it on streets, but did drive it back and forth from multiple track venues on East Coast. Initially stock except for seats, roller, harnesses and brakes. Upgraded suspension over time and continued tracking car until 2016 when I got a GT4. Shared track duties then but probably 75% GT4. Got new 991.2 GT3 in 2018 that took over track duty and 996 was rarely used. Sold GT4 in 2020 and then moved on from 991.2 last year. I now track 996.2 exclusively with track suspension. Only drive back and forth from Lime Rock. Other tracks car gets transported.
996.2 is a phenomenal track car. It comes alive like none other. I plan on tracking it for next few years until my new 992.2 comes in.
I would continue to track it occasionally as otherwise not sure what else that car is good for. :-)
chet
996.2 is a phenomenal track car. It comes alive like none other. I plan on tracking it for next few years until my new 992.2 comes in.
I would continue to track it occasionally as otherwise not sure what else that car is good for. :-)
chet
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The GT4 and 996 were on par with lap times but the GT4 felt so much more refined. The 996 is a raw track car and very special. The modern cars just don't match that feel and go kart type feel. GT4 is a Cayman with bodywork and a GT3 front suspension. The new RS must be a great drive.
Gratuitous pic of the three !!
chet
Last edited by CME; 02-13-2024 at 11:04 AM.
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Here is the thing - got offered a 4RS allocation at MSRP a few months ago and (obviously) took it. Also own a 996 GT3 since thirteen years and absolutely love this car.
Now the tough decision - do I sell 996 GT3 to get into the 4RS or will I regret big time?
Now the tough decision - do I sell 996 GT3 to get into the 4RS or will I regret big time?
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Congratulations on your 4RS. It is a fabulous car. I love mine.
I also have a 6/3 and strongly suggest you find a way to keep both.
The cars are both raw but in different ways. You will definitely regret selling your 996 GT3.
BTW: Also have a 991.2 GT3 Touring and it’s my favorite of the three by the slimiest of margins because it’s so versatile.
Enjoy your new ride in good health 😁
I also have a 6/3 and strongly suggest you find a way to keep both.
The cars are both raw but in different ways. You will definitely regret selling your 996 GT3.
BTW: Also have a 991.2 GT3 Touring and it’s my favorite of the three by the slimiest of margins because it’s so versatile.
Enjoy your new ride in good health 😁