sequential shifter 4 sale
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Originally Posted by carerracup
How is it to drive?
To downshift, you push forward the same nominal 2.5 inches of handle travel.
You still use the clutch.
It 'drives' just fine, although it took me a few times in the car to 'instictively' make the right moves and not have to 'think' about not making the H pattern movements.
The few local track guys that drove the car around on the street after it was installed all loved it. It is a serious piece of equipment.
I primarily got it because nobody has it... but now that the car is to be sold, it was best to remove it. I had it in for about 1,500 miles. It lists for around $4 grand, but is deeeply discounted to sell.
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Funny. I was just going through old Excellence issues today and saw this. Look for February 2004 (#126). They have a writeup on how it works and their opinions.
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Funny, the OEM (cup/RSR) one from Porsche cost $45,000. Must be different. I imagine this is not a sequential shifter, just a shifter that does not use the typical H pattern?
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Originally Posted by vegasgolf98
Funny, the OEM (cup/RSR) one from Porsche cost $45,000. Must be different. I imagine this is not a sequential shifter, just a shifter that does not use the typical H pattern?
the 'shifter' works as stated in my post above.
the gearbox does the same thing (as I understand it) but also needs no clutch.
that may explain the $41 k difference you quoted.
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Originally Posted by Radar
So, what other shifting options remain, then?
What 'options' exist to start with 'shifting'?
The sequential only allows changing one gear at a time (in sequence) up or down. 1-2-3-4-5-6-5-4-5-6-5-4-3-4-5-6-5-4-3-2-1-2-3-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-3-4-5...
The stock H pattern allows you to go from any gear to any other gear in any order you wish. 1-5-3-6-1-4-2-5-1-6, etc.
Is that what you mean?
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I am not sure I follow...
What 'options' exist to start with 'shifting'?
The sequential only allows changing one gear at a time (in sequence) up or down. 1-2-3-4-5-6-5-4-5-6-5-4-3-4-5-6-5-4-3-2-1-2-3-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-3-4-5...
The stock H pattern allows you to go from any gear to any other gear in any order you wish. 1-5-3-6-1-4-2-5-1-6, etc.
Is that what you mean?
What 'options' exist to start with 'shifting'?
The sequential only allows changing one gear at a time (in sequence) up or down. 1-2-3-4-5-6-5-4-5-6-5-4-3-4-5-6-5-4-3-2-1-2-3-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-3-4-5...
The stock H pattern allows you to go from any gear to any other gear in any order you wish. 1-5-3-6-1-4-2-5-1-6, etc.
Is that what you mean?
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Originally Posted by Radar
Well my question was directed to vegas because he doubted both sequential shifting and H pattern shifting. I was curious as to what else is there?
'nevermind'
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More feedback please on how it behaves on the track and aggressive driving if you have had the chance to test it, unlike the clutchless RUF system, the only advantage I can think of is the protection against a misshift?
I might be going to a GT3 gearbox in my 993 therefore the cable shifter will be there.
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I might be going to a GT3 gearbox in my 993 therefore the cable shifter will be there.
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Jean, I have not driven it in a manner that I would call aggressive, unless you mean moving the shift handle rapidly and multiple times when down shifting through gears? Works just fine. Considering what it is made of and how it seems to be made, I imagine you could bang on it a very long time before it showed any signs of abuse.
It certainly takes less effort / shift handle travel & therefore less time to accomplish each shift (unless you are trying to skip a few gears then it may be no faster as you must crank through the gears in sequence and cannot skip around).
The DE instructor that drove on the track loved it and had no problems making the gearbox to whatever he wanted, including feeling / finding 'neutral' in the very short shifter handle travel to RPM match on down shfits, etc.
It certainly should be solid protection against a mis-shift, although the guys at FVD apparently installed one of these years ago and said it popped out of gear a few times and they pulled it out. I have had no such problem and frankly looking at what the device is and understanding what all the mechanics tell me about the transmission, we see no way that the sequential shifter can impact the transmission poping out of gear unless it is not installed correctly, or the driver did not in fact fully engage the gear when pulling back or pushing forward on the handle... (I imagine the problem FVD saw was caused by driver error, as there are different points of resistance felt as the handle travels and the final actual gear engagement (last half inch to inch or so of travel) takes more effort than any other place in the range of travel so the driver probably 'thought' he was in gear but was not... kinda like not moving the standard H pattern shifter all the way into gear and saying it 'poped out'... It is also possible that earlier variants were a bit different than this version..
Also considering the hand travel lengths involved between the stock and this, this is faster as it is requires than half the handle travel distance to accomplish a typical up or down shift.
It certainly takes less effort / shift handle travel & therefore less time to accomplish each shift (unless you are trying to skip a few gears then it may be no faster as you must crank through the gears in sequence and cannot skip around).
The DE instructor that drove on the track loved it and had no problems making the gearbox to whatever he wanted, including feeling / finding 'neutral' in the very short shifter handle travel to RPM match on down shfits, etc.
It certainly should be solid protection against a mis-shift, although the guys at FVD apparently installed one of these years ago and said it popped out of gear a few times and they pulled it out. I have had no such problem and frankly looking at what the device is and understanding what all the mechanics tell me about the transmission, we see no way that the sequential shifter can impact the transmission poping out of gear unless it is not installed correctly, or the driver did not in fact fully engage the gear when pulling back or pushing forward on the handle... (I imagine the problem FVD saw was caused by driver error, as there are different points of resistance felt as the handle travels and the final actual gear engagement (last half inch to inch or so of travel) takes more effort than any other place in the range of travel so the driver probably 'thought' he was in gear but was not... kinda like not moving the standard H pattern shifter all the way into gear and saying it 'poped out'... It is also possible that earlier variants were a bit different than this version..
Also considering the hand travel lengths involved between the stock and this, this is faster as it is requires than half the handle travel distance to accomplish a typical up or down shift.
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Great feedback, thanks. I hope (not for you!) that it stays around for a bit, until I see which way I am going with the gearbox. I am guessing there is no way to adapt it to a shaft driven box.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
How is Reverse engaged? Downshift from 1st?