SEQUENTIAL SHIFT 4 STREET USE?
06-25-2008, 04:11 PM
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Have you ever wondered why Porsche don't race the Turbo? Dur freddy. If you want to win you want a rear wheel drive Porsche, simple. If you can't win, learn how to drive. Try spending the money on good lessons not the car..... These cars have awesome wet traction, they don't need 4wd......
Bored now.... I can't be bothered discussing such things with someone who hasn't even experienced the capabilities of the unique Porsche design. Get in one with some race tyres (Toyo's r888's etc) and be blown away by the traction, then tell me you still need to save weight because of 4wd........
06-25-2008, 05:58 PM
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The cage is currently not offerecd for sale until testing is completed.
I have no idea if the anti-splinter technology works, and i would never install it unless i knew if was proven.
That being said, if anybody did their homework on this they would know that Porsche is currently looking closely at this technology as is RUF.
I have no idea if the anti-splinter technology works, and i would never install it unless i knew if was proven.
That being said, if anybody did their homework on this they would know that Porsche is currently looking closely at this technology as is RUF.
There is no such thing as "anti-splinter technology".
Most OEM's are musing over a composite chassis, but again, it usually appears economically unfeasable because of the testing needed to verify what happens to the structure during cure cycle. If tooling costs and crash testing are something that an OEM can't face up to, how exactly would a fly-by-night tuner be able to pay for it?
FWIW, I have had meetings with Alois RUF when I was at Swift for the purpose of developing a short run composite chassis for them. Swift passed on the deal because there was no money in it. Alois ended up having some Italian hack shop do the work.
06-25-2008, 11:39 PM
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Have you actually even looked at the extra weight of the turbo versus gt2/3? 150KG's! Have you looked at the weight of the avg cage? 20KG's for a clubsport cage. So You will save let's say 10KG's with your carbon cage. Woohooo, brilliant, where are the other 140KG's going to be saved?
Have you ever wondered why Porsche don't race the Turbo? Dur freddy. If you want to win you want a rear wheel drive Porsche, simple. If you can't win, learn how to drive. Try spending the money on good lessons not the car..... These cars have awesome wet traction, they don't need 4wd......
Bored now.... I can't be bothered discussing such things with someone who hasn't even experienced the capabilities of the unique Porsche design. Get in one with some race tyres (Toyo's r888's etc) and be blown away by the traction, then tell me you still need to save weight because of 4wd........
Have you ever wondered why Porsche don't race the Turbo? Dur freddy. If you want to win you want a rear wheel drive Porsche, simple. If you can't win, learn how to drive. Try spending the money on good lessons not the car..... These cars have awesome wet traction, they don't need 4wd......
Bored now.... I can't be bothered discussing such things with someone who hasn't even experienced the capabilities of the unique Porsche design. Get in one with some race tyres (Toyo's r888's etc) and be blown away by the traction, then tell me you still need to save weight because of 4wd........
you misunderstood obviously.... i said it would HELP in weight reduction, not match..... any weight saving on an all-wheel drive turbo HELPS. doors, trunk lid, bonnet, fenders, calipers etc........ what ever helps.... not match which is what you went on about.
and yes, gt3 has great wet traction, but as i have posted i not only track, but tarmac rally with rain and gravel spread about the roadways from racers clipping the shoulders...... which is why i merely CONSIDERED all-wheel drive.
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06-25-2008, 11:52 PM
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Most likely thier "testing" will never be completed.
There is no such thing as "anti-splinter technology".
Most OEM's are musing over a composite chassis, but again, it usually appears economically unfeasable because of the testing needed to verify what happens to the structure during cure cycle. If tooling costs and crash testing are something that an OEM can't face up to, how exactly would a fly-by-night tuner be able to pay for it?
FWIW, I have had meetings with Alois RUF when I was at Swift for the purpose of developing a short run composite chassis for them. Swift passed on the deal because there was no money in it. Alois ended up having some Italian hack shop do the work.
There is no such thing as "anti-splinter technology".
Most OEM's are musing over a composite chassis, but again, it usually appears economically unfeasable because of the testing needed to verify what happens to the structure during cure cycle. If tooling costs and crash testing are something that an OEM can't face up to, how exactly would a fly-by-night tuner be able to pay for it?
FWIW, I have had meetings with Alois RUF when I was at Swift for the purpose of developing a short run composite chassis for them. Swift passed on the deal because there was no money in it. Alois ended up having some Italian hack shop do the work.
You must find this discussion amusing
I have no idea on the material other then i was curious in the "idea" and not knowing much about it i want to see what the FIA thinks.
As i mentioned earlier i am bound by the FIA for my form of racing.
For others posting about how they feel I have no idea or need for a full roll cage says alot to me about who is posting on threads.
But they drive great cars so they cant be that bad
06-26-2008, 01:35 AM
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you misunderstood obviously.... i said it would HELP in weight reduction, not match..... any weight saving on an all-wheel drive turbo HELPS. doors, trunk lid, bonnet, fenders, calipers etc........ what ever helps.... not match which is what you went on about.
and yes, gt3 has great wet traction, but as i have posted i not only track, but tarmac rally with rain and gravel spread about the roadways from racers clipping the shoulders...... which is why i merely CONSIDERED all-wheel drive.
jezzz
and yes, gt3 has great wet traction, but as i have posted i not only track, but tarmac rally with rain and gravel spread about the roadways from racers clipping the shoulders...... which is why i merely CONSIDERED all-wheel drive.
jezzz
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06-26-2008, 02:39 AM
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Don't bother, for the few slippery corners the entire rest of the run would be rubbish. To compare the 4wd of the turbo to an Evo or Sti is like apples and oranges. Evo's and STi's are brilliant 4wd setups with active diffs. They use some much technology to make the car drive itself practically. A turbo Porsche will never compete.
06-26-2008, 10:09 AM
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that is the kind of tarmac racing im currently doing (minus the mud and snow)
Anybody interested in changing their suspension and tires for a try?
Every september in eastern canada there is a 5 day tarmac rally on closed public roads with twists, turns and lots of straight aways.
06-28-2008, 12:22 AM
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