Caught a nail in the rear PS-2.. what to do.. ?!
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Caught a nail in the rear PS-2.. what to do.. ?!
Probably from the gravel area of the parking lot from today's autoX.. the tire is still in pretty good shape.. I know most here will say no to tracking a patched tire.. so patch it up and use it as street / autoX tire only? (but that would mean I need a set of new wheels.. which is not quite in the budget right now.. )
Is it so bad to run a patched tire at track even if it is at the center? (I guess the answer will be why chance it..)
If I get a new tire, I wonder if I can get just one.. (because one would then have more tread, maybe just slightly, cause from the pic, you can see that the tire looks pretty new)
Decision, decision...
Is it so bad to run a patched tire at track even if it is at the center? (I guess the answer will be why chance it..)
If I get a new tire, I wonder if I can get just one.. (because one would then have more tread, maybe just slightly, cause from the pic, you can see that the tire looks pretty new)
Decision, decision...
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Well, right or wrong, I have put a lot of track miles on repaired tires. If it is a small hole, away form the sidewall, such as this one appears, and if it is repaired properly with a plug/patch from the inside, it will be fine. Actually, the greater danger of degradation is with street use, where a longer life allows more opportunity for moisture to seep in and impact the steel cords. Of course, at street speeds it makes no difference. Where track tires are used up in a season anyway, I never give up on one from a small hole like this.
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Well, right or wrong, I have put a lot of track miles on repaired tires. If it is a small hole, away form the sidewall, such as this one appears, and if it is repaired properly with a plug/patch from the inside, it will be fine. Actually, the greater danger of degradation is with street use, where a longer life allows more opportunity for moisture to seep in and impact the steel cords. Of course, at street speeds it makes no difference. Where track tires are used up in a season anyway, I never give on one from a small hole like this.
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Blake, a simple tread depth measurement will determine that. I can speak form experience. I replaced a single rear tire on the GT3 (PS2) and there was a horrible "dive" under braking. We double and triple check the alignment and everything was perfect. For ***** and giggles we put another new rear tire on the other side and the problem disappeared. Had no idea that different tread depth tires could have that much of an impact.
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Cfjan,
Take the nail in stride, have the tire patched inside/out properly when dismounted, and then use the rears as street tires.
Could you track a patched tire? Sure. Could the patched tire leak, shred the sidewall, and cause a nice spin at 90 mph? Sure. Why even chance it with others on the circuit with you?
If you like the PS2 which is a terrific street tire with decent track capabilities, then just buy 2 new rears and keep the old ones around as spares (which you'll never use LOL).
Alternatively, you can use this 'opportunity' to get another set of wheels with Cups or HooHoos... and a trailer... and a tow vehicle... and... well, you get the idea. Screw the budget.
Take the nail in stride, have the tire patched inside/out properly when dismounted, and then use the rears as street tires.
Could you track a patched tire? Sure. Could the patched tire leak, shred the sidewall, and cause a nice spin at 90 mph? Sure. Why even chance it with others on the circuit with you?
If you like the PS2 which is a terrific street tire with decent track capabilities, then just buy 2 new rears and keep the old ones around as spares (which you'll never use LOL).
Alternatively, you can use this 'opportunity' to get another set of wheels with Cups or HooHoos... and a trailer... and a tow vehicle... and... well, you get the idea. Screw the budget.
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A plug and patch will reduce the tires capability by 10%. A 190 mph tire will only be O.K. up 171 mph.
THe most likely problem you might have is the repair glue gets hot and melts and you loose pressure out the nail hole. If you are paying close attention to grip as you drive then you will feel the problem before it get really bad. A corner or two with 25 lbs of air pressure in one tire will be felt by most drivers of this forum. That type of flat is not the first step to a blow out. I would even track it but watch it closely. On the street no problem.
THe most likely problem you might have is the repair glue gets hot and melts and you loose pressure out the nail hole. If you are paying close attention to grip as you drive then you will feel the problem before it get really bad. A corner or two with 25 lbs of air pressure in one tire will be felt by most drivers of this forum. That type of flat is not the first step to a blow out. I would even track it but watch it closely. On the street no problem.
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Dell, your point is well taken. The plug patch to which I referred, is a combination of a patch that is glued inside, and from which a plug extends, all in one piece. Although nothing is impossible, I have never heard of one failing. If it did, I can't imagine it doing so in such a manner that could be described as a blowout. I've had three tires go down on me on track at VIR. All were without any previous damage or repair, and none caused any loss of control. In the event of a plug/patch failure, the result would be similar. Certainly, replacing a tire with any damage, regardless of how minor, is the more prudent course.
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^I had it patched inside and at thill though tire didn't explode on me the patch glue came unglued and lost air so I wouldn't recommend it. Also another option that if u buy from tirerack just measure the goodtire tread depth and have tirerack shave them down to your good tire. They have tire shaving services. Just a thought. Mike
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I got a set if ps2 2000 miles street miles. Maybe less than that. 800?
U know u need them sooner or later.
U know u need them sooner or later.