997rs4.0

Porsche is doing great! They are making tons of money.

AP just need to stay closer to the works team than the cayenne.
Right now they are cashing in on the current good financial environment. I don't blame them. All premium car manufacturers are doing the same.

Personally I would like to see the GT/RS customers as an extension of the brand ambassadors.
The RS is getting further and further away from the Motorsport program. For me as an RS customer the relationship with the "real" drivers is important.

Time to make the RS a lot more extreme. Please make it more extreme and most likely more expensive. But will be good for the brand we love even in the future.

mooty

if i were PAG, i make 911R $900,000 USD then it automatically drop 95% of the buyers. so none of use will talking about it. i sure dont have 900k to spend. i really wanted a ALS 31 or FPJ grand complication. then i saw the price tag. i quickly STFU and moved over to the high figure figure cases hahaha

993GT

FWIW, my 996 GT2 does pretty good (am Canadian, eh)in weird late Ontario snow despite the track beat Pirelli's....hoping I'll see 1 million KM with my GT2

993GT

993GT

multi21

Am I missing something or from a business theory standpoint doesn't the dealer mark ups discourage people from buying? There are two markets as someone earlier pointed out: those that will buy at MSRP and those that will buy at MSRP +$$. Just a guess but for every car a dealer holds at over MSRP they could have sold 3 at MSRP.

I believe there is a substantial market for the cars (whether they are GT4 or GT3RS) at MSRP if Porsche built them, but people are not wiling to pay over MSRP such as myself. It makes ZERO sense for Porsche PAG to have a dealer make over MSRP and hold a car until they do sell. I get the exclusivity of an RS, but a car like the GT4 is a parts bin car with a 911 S motor. There is no way there should have been a limited production run for that car.

Dougr743

if you buy into the porsche experience, most people start off used, then move up and up and eventually (if they can afford it) to the top. The gt cars are mainly guys who have started small and kept moving up. The end game is getting non porsche buyers to buy 911's etc etc. I am an example of that guy. I just want a manual and can't get around the pdk. So i have my deposit and hope to see a gt3 manual next year. If i get tired of waiting, i will buy a short term 991s or gts or something to get me by until then. They are cashing in with short term leases, and buyers buying temp cars until they get to where they really want to be. just me 2 cents

0396

Rob,
They are discussing the price point for the new GT not how many miles you are enjoying your GT2.

993GT

Price points haven't really changed, just the some of the owners.
Enjoy the car, if it increases in value that's great...I get lots of PM's and emails about our cars...I always give a fair, without intended bias, the purpose and value of our cars, think it is unfounded?...there's a reason 996-997 911 GT's have value....
Mine's not for sale, until 'I'm in the box'....cremate and blow the ashes through the straight pipes..
If your point is directly geared at new Porsche's, I wouldn't trade for anything new outside of monetary value...
Cheers,

swbatte

People are putting deposits on the replacement for the 991 GT cars at Porsche London. Allotments are sold out, so people are getting in line earlier. Demand is up on these cars that's for sure. That's why we are seeing higher resale prices on 997 GT3s, GT2s etc.

993GT

^London did well on number of allotments for 991.1RS's...wonder how the values will do with the 991.2 GT3 supposedly offering manual...outside of purchase price, I wonder if there might be more cross-shopping with GT2 vs GT3 than had been with previous generations, 991 being more focussed on outright performance/efficiency vs driver involvement/'experience'

0396

Thanks for the info. There's always going to be folks who simply have the funds available for a new toy...
Similarly to the first Ruf R Turbo going to that one extremely lucky individual in Canada. Car # 1 for that Ruf, it must have cost that lucky person north of of 750 to 800 based on exchange rates...
One extremely lucky person.

TrackDays247.com

911R may be the only one that qualifies as such